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Musk is a retard, but he's still less retarded than anyone who expects firms and the market to take care of them.

hourago 4y ago
Governments create rules that force corporations to take care of employees. Maybe not so much in the USA. But that can be improved thru higher taxation and better employment regulations.
kennywinker 4y ago
There’s a difference between saying “wow that guy is an irresponsible asshole for intentionally or unintentionally fucking up my job” and expecting the market or your job to take care of you. I know some drivers will run red lights and stop signs, so I walk and bike accordingly. I’m still in the right to get mad when a driver narrowly misses me because he’s a self involved clown.
- thrown_22 4y ago
  >There’s a difference between saying “wow that guy is an irresponsible asshole for intentionally or unintentionally fucking up my job” and expecting the market or your job to take care of you. There isn't. Have a nice day.
  - kennywinker 4y ago
    If company owners want credit for creating jobs, that comes with the reciprocal responsibility of it being your fault if those jobs go away.
    - thrown_22 4y ago
      Jobs are a cost center. Companies don't create them on purpose anymore than having a higher electricity bill. I have no idea why you would think that is an argument for anything.
      - kennywinker 4y ago
        https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016731812159254529 https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/10167318121592545... Because they ask for that credit, and their defenders give them that credit when you criticize them.
        thrown_22 4y ago
        Stalinists criticized capitalists, Stalinists killed millions, ergo anyone who criticizes Musk supports genocide.
        kennywinker 4y ago
        I keep explaining the connection between my ideas, and you keep repeating that they are unconnected without acknowledging my reasoning. In retrospect, I should have left things back at have a nice day
        thrown_22 4y ago
        You keep making strawmen and expect me to fight them, now you're upset I won't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
        kennywinker 4y ago
        It’s masterful moves like calling opinions you don’t agree with “strawmen” that make you such a persuasive debater. I’m out gunned and out maneuvered - you win. I was wrong to describe elon musk’s actions as irresponsible.

Governments create rules that force corporations to take care of employees. Maybe not so much in the USA. But that can be improved thru higher taxation and better employment regulations.

kennywinker 4y ago

There’s a difference between saying “wow that guy is an irresponsible asshole for intentionally or unintentionally fucking up my job” and expecting the market or your job to take care of you. I know some drivers will run red lights and stop signs, so I walk and bike accordingly. I’m still in the right to get mad when a driver narrowly misses me because he’s a self involved clown.

thrown_22 4y ago
>There’s a difference between saying “wow that guy is an irresponsible asshole for intentionally or unintentionally fucking up my job” and expecting the market or your job to take care of you. There isn't. Have a nice day.
- kennywinker 4y ago
  If company owners want credit for creating jobs, that comes with the reciprocal responsibility of it being your fault if those jobs go away.
  - thrown_22 4y ago
    Jobs are a cost center. Companies don't create them on purpose anymore than having a higher electricity bill. I have no idea why you would think that is an argument for anything.
    - kennywinker 4y ago
      https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016731812159254529 https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/10167318121592545... Because they ask for that credit, and their defenders give them that credit when you criticize them.
      - thrown_22 4y ago
        Stalinists criticized capitalists, Stalinists killed millions, ergo anyone who criticizes Musk supports genocide.
        kennywinker 4y ago
        I keep explaining the connection between my ideas, and you keep repeating that they are unconnected without acknowledging my reasoning. In retrospect, I should have left things back at have a nice day
        thrown_22 4y ago
        You keep making strawmen and expect me to fight them, now you're upset I won't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
        kennywinker 4y ago
        It’s masterful moves like calling opinions you don’t agree with “strawmen” that make you such a persuasive debater. I’m out gunned and out maneuvered - you win. I was wrong to describe elon musk’s actions as irresponsible.