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Isn't that true in most countries? Is there any place in the world that can claim to have a diverse, competitive Telco market?

by pid-1 4y ago

walrus01 4y ago
for last mile ISP options, there are some very fortunate US counties in WA state that have a) last mile dark fiber network operated by local public utility district which is also the electrical grid operator, and rents access to the fiber to 3rd party ISPs b) local cable tv operator, legacy coax operator, often docsis3 cablemodem c) local ILEC/POTS phone company that may or may not have overbuilt its last mile copper/DSL service with its own singlemode fiber and 1Gbps GPON service. for primarily mobile phone carriers like rogers, there's an effective RF planning limit of around four major LTE/3GPP technology based operators in any given geographical area. USA used to have 4 with sprint until the tmobile/sprint acquisition.
ezekiel11 4y ago
no but i think theres similar zombie giants that is essentially a hybrid state run enterprise but Canada has explicitly designated industries where you simply cannot execute because they are anti-competitive. and its not clear how individuals are being handed out rights to say run a casino in canada. if you took a look at canada's corruption, you will be shocked. we don't quite live in a first world even though we like to tell ourselves all of the government officials/servants are honest. after all the canadian embassy staff in Hong Kong happily handed out PR residency to hardcore organized criminal groups in exchange for various luxuries and perks. when a staff tried to expose it, he was quickly removed and media began to attack him. its not only that but you see NGO's championing for racist white supremacy linked groups who vandalize Chinatown in Vancouver and with a large chunk of locals who feel that they are "being overrun by a certain ethnic group" eat that up and the same populist individuals get elected again and again. then my tax goes towards those interest while none for me because i'm 'privileged' in the long run, I see this system breaking down, if not already. Canada no longer feels like a country but some feudalistic interest group driven, poorly run corportation. so glad i dont have to pay taxes here. the savings and currency difference allowed me to create jobs in another part of the world. there was a time where I hoped things would get better and I could be creating jobs locally. i just regret wasting my youth in canada and west coast. canada is a bubble and lot of us are moving capital/jobs out of it. why contribute to a country that just sees you as an ATM to transfer payments to others who blame everyone but themselves and constantly wanting hand outs? im done with canada and im warning anybody who still attach romantic outlooks, especially in heavily marketed cities like vancouver.
ROTMetro 4y ago
Mountain West state, middle of nowhere town. I have the option of choosing between a 1Gb+ fiber provider, a 1Gb fiber provider, a 100Mb fiber provider, multiple wireless line of site providers in the 30Mb range(more targeted to the people outside town but have line of site to the mountain), or T-Mobile home internet in the 30-180Mb. Small towns are super friendly and responsive to the 'work remote' crowd.
thematrixturtle 4y ago
The model of separating the fiber network from the telcos that offer service on it can work of the incentives are well aligned. Many Asian countries, eg Singapore, do this. Or you could put the fox in charge of the hen house and end up in Australia's situation, where local monopolist Telstra owns the phone network and is supposed to play nicely with its competitors.
refurb 4y ago
Singapore does a decent job. I was paying $10/month for a 10GB mobile plan. There are 5 different mobile providers in Singapore: Singtel, Starhub, M1, MyRepublic, ViewQwest and WhizComms. Many of them also do fiber broadband. Some government body owns the infrastructure and the providers provide the connection to the internet. There are 5 providers as well. I was paying $50/month for 1GB fiber and I paid more since I did a shorter term plan. If you buy in for 2 years, it's can be $35/month. And this is in a country of 5.5M people.
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Isn't that true in most countries? Is there any place in the world that can claim to have a diverse, competitive Telco market?

by pid-1 4y ago

Isn't that true in most countries? Is there any place in the world that can claim to have a diverse, competitive Telco market?

walrus01 4y ago

for last mile ISP options, there are some very fortunate US counties in WA state that have a) last mile dark fiber network operated by local public utility district which is also the electrical grid operator, and rents access to the fiber to 3rd party ISPs b) local cable tv operator, legacy coax operator, often docsis3 cablemodem c) local ILEC/POTS phone company that may or may not have overbuilt its last mile copper/DSL service with its own singlemode fiber and 1Gbps GPON service. for primarily mobile phone carriers like rogers, there's an effective RF planning limit of around four major LTE/3GPP technology based operators in any given geographical area. USA used to have 4 with sprint until the tmobile/sprint acquisition.

ezekiel11 4y ago

no but i think theres similar zombie giants that is essentially a hybrid state run enterprise but Canada has explicitly designated industries where you simply cannot execute because they are anti-competitive. and its not clear how individuals are being handed out rights to say run a casino in canada. if you took a look at canada's corruption, you will be shocked. we don't quite live in a first world even though we like to tell ourselves all of the government officials/servants are honest. after all the canadian embassy staff in Hong Kong happily handed out PR residency to hardcore organized criminal groups in exchange for various luxuries and perks. when a staff tried to expose it, he was quickly removed and media began to attack him. its not only that but you see NGO's championing for racist white supremacy linked groups who vandalize Chinatown in Vancouver and with a large chunk of locals who feel that they are "being overrun by a certain ethnic group" eat that up and the same populist individuals get elected again and again. then my tax goes towards those interest while none for me because i'm 'privileged' in the long run, I see this system breaking down, if not already. Canada no longer feels like a country but some feudalistic interest group driven, poorly run corportation. so glad i dont have to pay taxes here. the savings and currency difference allowed me to create jobs in another part of the world. there was a time where I hoped things would get better and I could be creating jobs locally. i just regret wasting my youth in canada and west coast. canada is a bubble and lot of us are moving capital/jobs out of it. why contribute to a country that just sees you as an ATM to transfer payments to others who blame everyone but themselves and constantly wanting hand outs? im done with canada and im warning anybody who still attach romantic outlooks, especially in heavily marketed cities like vancouver.

ROTMetro 4y ago

Mountain West state, middle of nowhere town. I have the option of choosing between a 1Gb+ fiber provider, a 1Gb fiber provider, a 100Mb fiber provider, multiple wireless line of site providers in the 30Mb range(more targeted to the people outside town but have line of site to the mountain), or T-Mobile home internet in the 30-180Mb. Small towns are super friendly and responsive to the 'work remote' crowd.

thematrixturtle 4y ago

The model of separating the fiber network from the telcos that offer service on it can work of the incentives are well aligned. Many Asian countries, eg Singapore, do this. Or you could put the fox in charge of the hen house and end up in Australia's situation, where local monopolist Telstra owns the phone network and is supposed to play nicely with its competitors.

refurb 4y ago

Singapore does a decent job. I was paying $10/month for a 10GB mobile plan. There are 5 different mobile providers in Singapore: Singtel, Starhub, M1, MyRepublic, ViewQwest and WhizComms. Many of them also do fiber broadband. Some government body owns the infrastructure and the providers provide the connection to the internet. There are 5 providers as well. I was paying $50/month for 1GB fiber and I paid more since I did a shorter term plan. If you buy in for 2 years, it's can be $35/month. And this is in a country of 5.5M people.

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