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Amazon has shown time and time again that they don't care. They don't care about fake reviews, counterfeit products, cheap Chinese crap, their workforce, or any

by V__ 4y ago

Amazon has shown time and time again that they don't care. They don't care about fake reviews, counterfeit products, cheap Chinese crap, their workforce, or anything really as long as customers keep on buying.

m463 4y ago
I wonder if they are jumping the shark? I intensely dislike the paid search results or sponsored recommendations. The nonsense-name brands that are either chinese or secretly amazon that prevent brand names from showing up (and many good brands ship counterfeits). The fake reviews. The popup "extended warranty" screens where if you close the tab/window... the item doesn't make it to your shopping basket. I remember when I had an iphone, and a few years ago when apple did not prevent abuse I just stopped installing apps. The app market had jumped the shark and become a cesspool. Nice apps I liked were bought and monetized in unethical ways, and apple didn't care. For example, I had an app called gas cubby, which let me locally - on the phone - keep track of all my vehicles. I could enter detailed information about each car such as year, make, model, vin, insurance policy, gas purchases, oil changes and the like. It would tell you gas mileage and remind you of upcoming maintenance. One day, the app was updated and all my local data was uploaded to the cloud! Another app, camscanner plus purchased by tencent basically did the same thing.
- nikanj 4y ago
  My general feeling is that commerce has jumped the shark. You can make so much more money with scamming, the honest businesses are few and far apart. And nigh impossible to identify. It doesn't feel like a platform problem, more of a societal fabric unraveling.
  - AlexandrB 4y ago
    If there's no enforcement of anti-fraud laws or consumer protections, why not scam people? As you said, it's more profitable than legitimate business. We live in the golden age of fraud.
    - m463 4y ago
      (even the name "consumer" is a pretty terrible choice of words that doesn't connote respect)
  - antifa 4y ago
    Everything you like is one autoupdate away from being the thing you put a lot of effort into not choosing. What do you call this, the Rugpull Economy?
- fencepost 4y ago
  Another app, camscanner plus purchased by tencent basically did the same thing. I've actually shifted to just using Microsoft's Office Lens for scanning - I'd purchased the paid versions of multiple scanning apps and about 6-7 years ago I looked and every one of them seemed to be owned by a company in Russia. I wasn't real comfortable with that, so switched over to Microsoft. It may be a faceless megacorp, but I still think it's more trustworthy than anonymous Russian entities dealing with uploads and OCRs of stuff I think worth keeping.
  - m463 4y ago
    At some point, apple added document scanning to the notes app. It recognizes the document, finds the edges and makes a .pdf file. It actually kind of sucks compared to the other apps, and notes will upload to the cloud if you don't prevent it, but it can be local and not china.

by V__ 4y ago

m463 4y ago

I wonder if they are jumping the shark? I intensely dislike the paid search results or sponsored recommendations. The nonsense-name brands that are either chinese or secretly amazon that prevent brand names from showing up (and many good brands ship counterfeits). The fake reviews. The popup "extended warranty" screens where if you close the tab/window... the item doesn't make it to your shopping basket. I remember when I had an iphone, and a few years ago when apple did not prevent abuse I just stopped installing apps. The app market had jumped the shark and become a cesspool. Nice apps I liked were bought and monetized in unethical ways, and apple didn't care. For example, I had an app called gas cubby, which let me locally - on the phone - keep track of all my vehicles. I could enter detailed information about each car such as year, make, model, vin, insurance policy, gas purchases, oil changes and the like. It would tell you gas mileage and remind you of upcoming maintenance. One day, the app was updated and all my local data was uploaded to the cloud! Another app, camscanner plus purchased by tencent basically did the same thing.

nikanj 4y ago
My general feeling is that commerce has jumped the shark. You can make so much more money with scamming, the honest businesses are few and far apart. And nigh impossible to identify. It doesn't feel like a platform problem, more of a societal fabric unraveling.
- AlexandrB 4y ago
  If there's no enforcement of anti-fraud laws or consumer protections, why not scam people? As you said, it's more profitable than legitimate business. We live in the golden age of fraud.
  - m463 4y ago
    (even the name "consumer" is a pretty terrible choice of words that doesn't connote respect)
- antifa 4y ago
  Everything you like is one autoupdate away from being the thing you put a lot of effort into not choosing. What do you call this, the Rugpull Economy?
fencepost 4y ago
Another app, camscanner plus purchased by tencent basically did the same thing. I've actually shifted to just using Microsoft's Office Lens for scanning - I'd purchased the paid versions of multiple scanning apps and about 6-7 years ago I looked and every one of them seemed to be owned by a company in Russia. I wasn't real comfortable with that, so switched over to Microsoft. It may be a faceless megacorp, but I still think it's more trustworthy than anonymous Russian entities dealing with uploads and OCRs of stuff I think worth keeping.
- m463 4y ago
  At some point, apple added document scanning to the notes app. It recognizes the document, finds the edges and makes a .pdf file. It actually kind of sucks compared to the other apps, and notes will upload to the cloud if you don't prevent it, but it can be local and not china.