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It's hard to understate the impact of this across all of Canada. As someone who uses Apple Pay for almost every transaction, this underlines the fragility of a

by acoard 4y ago

It's hard to understate the impact of this across all of Canada. As someone who uses Apple Pay for almost every transaction, this underlines the fragility of a "cashless society." Also, around half my team are unable to effectively work today. We all work remote, and half the team's home internet is on Rogers, which is down. Some people are tethering, but people who are also on Rogers for their wireless are out of luck. I'm not a Rogers customer anymore, but my boss showed me how you can't even login to their account anymore. Their website is down too, just timing out. Funny, I left Rogers last year and just last night a telemarketer phoned me asking me to return to Rogers. What a sign that I made the right call by politely refusing.

kgraves 4y ago
> It's hard to understate the impact of this across all of Canada. As someone who uses Apple Pay for almost every transaction, this underlines the fragility of a "cashless society." It seems like Bitcoin and crypto fared well during this outage.
- jeromegv 4y ago
  If you could get on the internet to transact your crypto, that is.
  - kgraves 4y ago
    You can if you use cellular data to transact with Bitcoin, not everyone is using the Rogers network, but the banks in Canada were. So no online banking, withdrawals, payments in affected parts Canada.
lotsofpulp 4y ago
> this underlines the fragility of a "cashless society." And a society that refuses to invest in robust infrastructure.
brianpan 4y ago
You don't need an internet connection to use Apple Pay. Unless you mean you didn't use credit cards before, the situation has been the same for the last 20-30 years when we stopped using carbon paper imprints.
- acchow 4y ago
  The payment terminal still needs internet access to process your Apple Pay transaction
  - mynameisvlad 4y ago
    It does not for credit. Credit transactions can be batched offline and transmitted when things come back online. Debit must be online, though.
    - ehPReth 4y ago
      What happens if the transaction is over credit limit or if someone uses a fake (once valid but now cancelled, generated, etc) card?
Spoom 4y ago
Imagine Bell was down too. What then? I really hope this results in the CRTC starting to allow more competition. I hope, but I'm not optimistic.
- anonymousab 4y ago
  I think we're most likely going to see them using this as justification to let Rogers get their way even more. Maybe the CRTC will try to convince the rest of the government that it's a reason to give away more cash and preferential treatment to Rogers and Bell as well.
- paulhart 4y ago
  I'd suggest giving the CRTC a call with your thoughts... but their phone system is down :) https://twitter.com/CRTCeng/status/1545421218534359041 https://twitter.com/CRTCeng/status/1545421218534359041
MAGZine 4y ago
applepay works fine. not on the interac network.
- KMnO4 4y ago
  Does Apple Pay work even with debit transactions?
  - jonny_eh 4y ago
    It likely only works with credit cards.
nikanj 4y ago
Tethering with Canadian data prices is..spicy. A Zoom call uses about a gig per hour with HD cameras, and you typically get about 10 gigs of data per month. Overages charged at one firstborn per gig

by acoard 4y ago

kgraves 4y ago

> It's hard to understate the impact of this across all of Canada. As someone who uses Apple Pay for almost every transaction, this underlines the fragility of a "cashless society." It seems like Bitcoin and crypto fared well during this outage.

jeromegv 4y ago
If you could get on the internet to transact your crypto, that is.
- kgraves 4y ago
  You can if you use cellular data to transact with Bitcoin, not everyone is using the Rogers network, but the banks in Canada were. So no online banking, withdrawals, payments in affected parts Canada.

lotsofpulp 4y ago

> this underlines the fragility of a "cashless society." And a society that refuses to invest in robust infrastructure.

brianpan 4y ago

You don't need an internet connection to use Apple Pay. Unless you mean you didn't use credit cards before, the situation has been the same for the last 20-30 years when we stopped using carbon paper imprints.

acchow 4y ago
The payment terminal still needs internet access to process your Apple Pay transaction
- mynameisvlad 4y ago
  It does not for credit. Credit transactions can be batched offline and transmitted when things come back online. Debit must be online, though.
  - ehPReth 4y ago
    What happens if the transaction is over credit limit or if someone uses a fake (once valid but now cancelled, generated, etc) card?

Spoom 4y ago

Imagine Bell was down too. What then? I really hope this results in the CRTC starting to allow more competition. I hope, but I'm not optimistic.

anonymousab 4y ago
I think we're most likely going to see them using this as justification to let Rogers get their way even more. Maybe the CRTC will try to convince the rest of the government that it's a reason to give away more cash and preferential treatment to Rogers and Bell as well.
paulhart 4y ago
I'd suggest giving the CRTC a call with your thoughts... but their phone system is down :) https://twitter.com/CRTCeng/status/1545421218534359041 https://twitter.com/CRTCeng/status/1545421218534359041

MAGZine 4y ago

applepay works fine. not on the interac network.

KMnO4 4y ago
Does Apple Pay work even with debit transactions?
- jonny_eh 4y ago
  It likely only works with credit cards.

nikanj 4y ago

Tethering with Canadian data prices is..spicy. A Zoom call uses about a gig per hour with HD cameras, and you typically get about 10 gigs of data per month. Overages charged at one firstborn per gig