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Good combo-breaker for Netflix, maybe they can save their company now that they stop letting pc-zealots direct their course.

202206241203 4y ago
I struggle to believe that people shipping code and people trying to ban free speech are the same people at Netflix.
- slowmovintarget 4y ago
  You be surprised at how few young people, including coders, see a contradiction in stopping speech they don't like and being "for free speech." That whole First Amendment thing is "problematic" because their professors taught them so. They're for free speech... that they agree with.
kjeetgill 4y ago
Hm. I know there's been lots of news stories of people complaining, but have any actual decisions been made with respect to them? I haven't followed that closely. I guess what I'm really thinking is if this moves the needle at all in terms of saving the company: my impression was that there are just too many services now and with better content.
falcolas 4y ago
How dare those shareholders have opinions on how the company they own shares in conducts its business?!
- slowmovintarget 4y ago
  It's for the sake of the shareholders that they're not giving in to PC nonsense. From what I read, the objections to content were not coming from shareholders but from ERGs (special interest groups of employees organized around identity politics... which is a bad idea in the first place).
  - Yaina 4y ago
    What's the point of assembling a diverse workforce, if their voices are not heard. And it's not about "PC Culture", it's about people talking down on marginalized groups. A trans person having a comedy special and making jokes about their community would be very different.
    - slowmovintarget 4y ago
      Saying you must be part of the "identity group" you are telling a joke about is gatekeeping. That is PC culture in a nutshell.
      - Yaina 4y ago
        It's about punching down or punching up. Why do people like Chappelle need to make fun of a group that is fighting for their rights and recognition across the world? He's signalling that trans people should not be recognized as themselves, and their issues not taken seriously. At this point it doesn't matter if people laugh at the end.
        Chris2048 4y ago
        When special interest groups can get you cancelled, they are in a position of power - criticising them is punching up - this is exactly what one of those jokes refers to: that trans people/groups often have white privilege, or some kind of institutional support. That said, suggesting there is a binary power structure is incorrect in the first place.
  - falcolas 4y ago
    The employees are shareholders. Engineers get astound $10k of stock every year. And protecting the company from those who would wring short term profits from it at the cost of long term trust and viability is a good thing. Always will be.
    - s1k3 4y ago

202206241203 4y ago

I struggle to believe that people shipping code and people trying to ban free speech are the same people at Netflix.

slowmovintarget 4y ago
You be surprised at how few young people, including coders, see a contradiction in stopping speech they don't like and being "for free speech." That whole First Amendment thing is "problematic" because their professors taught them so. They're for free speech... that they agree with.

kjeetgill 4y ago

Hm. I know there's been lots of news stories of people complaining, but have any actual decisions been made with respect to them? I haven't followed that closely. I guess what I'm really thinking is if this moves the needle at all in terms of saving the company: my impression was that there are just too many services now and with better content.

falcolas 4y ago

How dare those shareholders have opinions on how the company they own shares in conducts its business?!

slowmovintarget 4y ago
It's for the sake of the shareholders that they're not giving in to PC nonsense. From what I read, the objections to content were not coming from shareholders but from ERGs (special interest groups of employees organized around identity politics... which is a bad idea in the first place).
- Yaina 4y ago
  What's the point of assembling a diverse workforce, if their voices are not heard. And it's not about "PC Culture", it's about people talking down on marginalized groups. A trans person having a comedy special and making jokes about their community would be very different.
  - slowmovintarget 4y ago
    Saying you must be part of the "identity group" you are telling a joke about is gatekeeping. That is PC culture in a nutshell.
    - Yaina 4y ago
      It's about punching down or punching up. Why do people like Chappelle need to make fun of a group that is fighting for their rights and recognition across the world? He's signalling that trans people should not be recognized as themselves, and their issues not taken seriously. At this point it doesn't matter if people laugh at the end.
      - Chris2048 4y ago
        When special interest groups can get you cancelled, they are in a position of power - criticising them is punching up - this is exactly what one of those jokes refers to: that trans people/groups often have white privilege, or some kind of institutional support. That said, suggesting there is a binary power structure is incorrect in the first place.
- falcolas 4y ago
  The employees are shareholders. Engineers get astound $10k of stock every year. And protecting the company from those who would wring short term profits from it at the cost of long term trust and viability is a good thing. Always will be.
  - s1k3 4y ago