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If a foreign country had a rogue police force that killed citizens and then passed a law criminalizing the recording of the police we'd easily call them a dicta
by ricardoplouis 4y ago
If a foreign country had a rogue police force that killed citizens and then passed a law criminalizing the recording of the police we'd easily call them a dictatorship.
- pif 4y ago
- macintux 4y agoThere are caveats. Laws that make it harder to vote a party out of power, e.g.
- hammock 4y agoYou are being downvoted and your comment is correct. Functioning democracy is distinct from mob rule. This notion is one of the reasons why rights such as the right to a public trial without unnecessary delay, the right to a lawyer, the right to an impartial jury, and the right to know who your accusers are and the nature of the charges and evidence against you were codified in the Constitution
- Beltiras 4y agoYou lost all those rights under the Patriot Act.
- ricardoplouis 4y agoYou make a weak case for representative democracies while ignoring the police killing part. Where does that fit in?
- pif 4y agoI'm just stating the obvious: this law has nothing to do with dictatorship.
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
- ataru 4y agoDemocracy should produce an acceptable result in the end, but in the short term allows terrible things to happen. I guess that is worrying, as we can't always wait for things to get better, the terrible thing might kill us before then.
- pif 4y ago> Democracy should produce an acceptable result in the end Unfortunately, that is not a given.
- namlem 4y agoExcept that the politicians get to pick their voters through gerrymandering instead of the voters picking their representatives like in a proper democracy.
- rhn_mk1 4y agoThe outcomes of the democratic process include a dictatorship system. See the NSDAP election.
- nmilo 4y agoOf course, cops are no match for the MIGHTY VOTER. When I see cops abusing someone on the street, I will no longer stop and record, I will merely smirk at them, for it is I, the MIGHTY VOTER, that actually controls the cops. And when I go cast my ballot in a few years, I will laugh in their face, for my vote has the power to fire them at once. And when the next election comes, and this law has not yet been repealed, I will know that the system is functioning perfectly fine, and it is actually our fault for not using our voting power to repeal this law.
- tfigueroa 4y agoIf this fails, simply tell the cops that your taxes pay their salary. They are definitely no match for that.
- zmgsabst 4y agoOkay — but the US doesn’t have a “rogue police force that kills citizens”. That’s not supported by actual statistics, even if it’s a popular narrative among some political groups.
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- infinityplus1 4y agoJust do a google search and see actual events instead of some statistics.
- arianvanp 4y agoStatistics seem to suggest just that though? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enfo... What other statistic should I be looking at?
- deleted 4y ago[deleted]
- oblio 4y agoIf you sort by: "People killed by security forces", out of the top 34 countries, 33 are underdeveloped or developing (and several are at war or have an ongoing civil war). The US is in 7th place. Interestingly, Canada is the 35th, but it still has about 9 times fewer cases per capita than the US...
- hammock 4y ago
- oblio 4y ago> Azov Regiment > Founded 5 May 2014 – present Gee, I wonder why some ultra-radicalized militia appeared in May 2014. Will we ever find out? > On <<12 April>>, unmarked pro-Russian militants lead by FSB agent Igor Girkin seized the Donetsk city office of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and two other police offices in the oblast Ah, that's why. Plus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
- hammock 4y ago
- oblio 4y agoThe FSB is a Russian organization. The paramilitary appeared as a reaction to... a foreign invasion.
- jjoonathan 4y agoReading comprehension level: FSB