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>Immigration is probably the only thing right now that mitigates the problem of consecutive declining birthrates. No it isn't. It's fairly simple to increase d
by jdasdf 4y ago
>Immigration is probably the only thing right now that mitigates the problem of consecutive declining birthrates.
No it isn't. It's fairly simple to increase declining birthrates in the west, there just isn't the political will do do what would be necessary to accomplish that (ie: Prohibit female education, abortion, birth control, kill the welfare state, etc...)
- chaostheory 4y agoThat’s my point. Immigration is the best solution.
- tored 4y agoHungary has increased their number of births per woman from 1.23 ten years ago to 1.55 today by giving tax credits for new families.
- chaostheory 4y agoIt’s still not enough for even replenishment, especially when our economic systems demand growth.
- tored 4y agoThen we should reform our economic system, endless growth is not viable, especially if you take into account climate and environmental issues. Again, band aid solutions does not work in the long run. We need to adress the real issue.
- chaostheory 4y agoThat’s really easy to say, but much harder to execute. Japan has been in stagflation for decades now. They still haven’t addressed the issue. The reason is because there’s current no known solution for it since centralized planning doesn’t work. If anyone has both the capabity & incentive for finding this answer, it would be them. Immigration is still the logical choice until the solution is found.
- andrekandre 4y ago> centralized planning doesn’t work. who said anything about centralized planning?
- kfajdsl 4y agoIf you just make it easier to have kids, people will have them. It's hard to justify bringing a child into this world when both would-be parents have to work to make ends meet and they can't afford childcare.
- chaostheory 4y agoIt doesn’t matter. The birth rate will still drop. Accounting for ALL social issues including “making it easier to have kids”, the birth rate will still drop because male fertility keeps dropping in any country that’s reached a certain level of industrialization. This includes BOTH developed and developing nations. There’s no definitive culprit, but many researchers believe male infertility is being caused by the endocrine disrupters that leech from plastic products that we use for food applications.
- AdrianB1 4y agoHaving kids is quite easy. Most of my colleagues that don't have any kids got into this situation because they pursued careers (long live the corporations selling dreams about careers) and then at 40 years old they figured out they cannot have kids anymore, even with fertility treatments they now afford. The younger ones that are still age 25 to 30 strongly believe it is too early for having kids and they postpone that for another 10-15 years.
- lotsofpulp 4y agoHaving kids is easy for a man. For a woman, it is anything but. And women’s freedom to choose when and how many and who to have children with is what has caused birthrates to decline. From what I can tell, women have been eating the true costs of birthing and raising children since forever. Now they can choose the terms under which they are willing to subject themselves to the risks and effects of childbirth, breastfeeding, and child rearing, so the “free” market should help see what the appropriate price will be.
- AdrianB1 4y agoOf the women that have kids and I talked to, none complained that having kids is not easy. I know women that after having the kid they planned for, decided to have 2 or 3, even 4 and it was their decision, not their husband's. The only women I heard complaining about having kids are the ones that have none, which is a bit strange - they have only second hand experiences, if any, of having kids. Yes, now the future of the human race is practically at the hand of the women only. So far it is not going well, as a society and as a race.
- hueyluey 4y agoAre you including Japan as part of the "west"?