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Interesting that in the last photo the man (Abe’s security guard?) apprehending the gunman is clearly armed but hasn’t drawn his weapon.

throw0101a 4y ago
In most other countries, training encourages the use of lethal force as a last resort. In Germany (pop. 84M), in 2015, a total of 101 rounds were discharged by police for the entire year: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_firearm_use_by_country#Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_firearm_use_by_country#... How the UK police dealt with a machete-wielding individual: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mzPj_IaMzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mzPj_IaMzY
- ronnier 4y ago
  I haven’t looked at any data but I imagine Japanese and German police don’t get attacked and killed and shot at the rates seen America. A lot of American police officers die each year so that probably plays into the officers using more force
  - throw0101a 4y ago
    Being a police officer is the #22 most dangerous job in the US: * https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-united-states https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-j... After 4. Roofers; 5. Garbage collectors; 7. Delivery drivers; 8. Farmers; 11. Agricultural workers; 12. Crossing guards; 15. Landscaping supervisors; 21. Grounds maintenance workers. Or #21 according to this list: * https://finance.yahoo.com/news/30-most-dangerous-jobs-america-135344484.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/30-most-dangerous-jobs-americ... On average, <200 police officers have died because of the job each year over the past decade: * https://nleomf.org/memorial/facts-figures/officer-fatality-data/causes-of-law-enforcement-deaths/ https://nleomf.org/memorial/facts-figures/officer-fatality-d... Eye-balling it, on average about one-third were shot. The biggest single outlier was COVID in 2020, but otherwise the causes and their percentages seem fairly steady. The other side of the equation, people killed by police: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enfor...
  - mywittyname 4y ago
    The American ones die largely in car accidents.
    - th0ma5 4y ago
      Last couple of years COVID-19 has been the #1 killer of police.
  - mrguyorama 4y ago
    A lot of American cops die in incidents completely unrelated to apprehending dangerous people. Things like car crashes. And COVID. Meanwhile, being a garbage man is still more dangerous.
  - walls 4y ago
    You should try looking at the data. Being a cop isn't even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs. They're just monsters.

throw0101a 4y ago

In most other countries, training encourages the use of lethal force as a last resort. In Germany (pop. 84M), in 2015, a total of 101 rounds were discharged by police for the entire year: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_firearm_use_by_country#Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_firearm_use_by_country#... How the UK police dealt with a machete-wielding individual: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mzPj_IaMzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mzPj_IaMzY

ronnier 4y ago
I haven’t looked at any data but I imagine Japanese and German police don’t get attacked and killed and shot at the rates seen America. A lot of American police officers die each year so that probably plays into the officers using more force
- throw0101a 4y ago
  Being a police officer is the #22 most dangerous job in the US: * https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-united-states https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-j... After 4. Roofers; 5. Garbage collectors; 7. Delivery drivers; 8. Farmers; 11. Agricultural workers; 12. Crossing guards; 15. Landscaping supervisors; 21. Grounds maintenance workers. Or #21 according to this list: * https://finance.yahoo.com/news/30-most-dangerous-jobs-america-135344484.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/30-most-dangerous-jobs-americ... On average, <200 police officers have died because of the job each year over the past decade: * https://nleomf.org/memorial/facts-figures/officer-fatality-data/causes-of-law-enforcement-deaths/ https://nleomf.org/memorial/facts-figures/officer-fatality-d... Eye-balling it, on average about one-third were shot. The biggest single outlier was COVID in 2020, but otherwise the causes and their percentages seem fairly steady. The other side of the equation, people killed by police: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enfor...
- mywittyname 4y ago
  The American ones die largely in car accidents.
  - th0ma5 4y ago
    Last couple of years COVID-19 has been the #1 killer of police.
- mrguyorama 4y ago
  A lot of American cops die in incidents completely unrelated to apprehending dangerous people. Things like car crashes. And COVID. Meanwhile, being a garbage man is still more dangerous.
- walls 4y ago
  You should try looking at the data. Being a cop isn't even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs. They're just monsters.