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The guy openly idolizes war criminals. He doesn’t garner a lot of respect outside of Japan.

by chaostheory 4y ago

chitowneats 4y ago
Can we not wait more than 6 hours after this man's chest was blown to pieces?
- chaostheory 4y ago
  No, because that is one of his legacies and my response answers your question. He’s the equivalent of a German politician who condones and worships Nazi war criminals.
astrange 4y ago
Abe is the most important Japanese politician (or maybe the only important Japanese politician) in the last 10 years, so you don't need to describe him by one thing you read on Wikipedia. Though I think Taiwan would like him as he's one of the best in the area at resisting China's invasion threats.
- chaostheory 4y ago
  I’ve kept up with him for years. His importance is irrelevant. Does this mean we now write only good things of Putin or Xi just because they’re important? Context still matters. The Taiwanese, like most of Asia, are also not fond of Japanese war criminals or their supporters. Btw I don’t appreciate personal insults, especially when you pair them with weak arguments.
  - inawarminister 4y ago
    How do you figure? I and most of Asia (except China and the Koreas) don't think much of old, dead, buried Japanese war criminals. Sure, they came to our country and massacred our people - but they only did it for 4 years and left. The western Colonial regimes lasted for centuries. And Abe was very supportive of Asian alliances and economic partnerships, unlike many other LDP politicians.
  - astrange 4y ago
    Which genocides has Abe done? He was a nationalist PM once and then a (relatively) liberal PM a second much longer time. It's very silly to compare modern Japan to a dictatorship. Taiwan is not "like the rest of Asia"; it's only China and Korea that are mad about Japan. And in his second premiership Abe stopped Yasukuni Shrine visits, apologized to Korea, started a fund for descendants of comfort women and quietly suppressed anti-Korean hate groups at home.
    - chaostheory 4y ago
      Let’s not be disingenuous. He hasn’t committed any war crimes. His grandfather and his grandfather’s peers did. https://www.pacificwar.org.au/JapWarCrimes/Cross-section_JapWarCrimes.html https://www.pacificwar.org.au/JapWarCrimes/Cross-section_Jap... His government denies they ever happened https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-05-07-me-54705-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-05-07-me-54705-... https://time.com/5546/japanese-nhk-officials-world-war-ii/ https://time.com/5546/japanese-nhk-officials-world-war-ii/
      - astrange 4y ago
        This is a list of things other people did. (what's his grandfather got to do with it?) Everything I mentioned happened after 2014. However, he didn't do enough for median incomes (for a rich country the people are all generally kind of poor) or for women, who are more employed now but still underemployed and don't have nearly enough access to childcare.
vogre 4y ago
Criminals for ones, heroes for others. US has nuked Japanese cities, no one got punished for that. Abe was very pro-japanese, straight and honest politician. And very uncomfortable for the West.

The guy openly idolizes war criminals. He doesn’t garner a lot of respect outside of Japan.

chitowneats 4y ago

Can we not wait more than 6 hours after this man's chest was blown to pieces?

chaostheory 4y ago
No, because that is one of his legacies and my response answers your question. He’s the equivalent of a German politician who condones and worships Nazi war criminals.

astrange 4y ago

Abe is the most important Japanese politician (or maybe the only important Japanese politician) in the last 10 years, so you don't need to describe him by one thing you read on Wikipedia. Though I think Taiwan would like him as he's one of the best in the area at resisting China's invasion threats.

chaostheory 4y ago
I’ve kept up with him for years. His importance is irrelevant. Does this mean we now write only good things of Putin or Xi just because they’re important? Context still matters. The Taiwanese, like most of Asia, are also not fond of Japanese war criminals or their supporters. Btw I don’t appreciate personal insults, especially when you pair them with weak arguments.
- inawarminister 4y ago
  How do you figure? I and most of Asia (except China and the Koreas) don't think much of old, dead, buried Japanese war criminals. Sure, they came to our country and massacred our people - but they only did it for 4 years and left. The western Colonial regimes lasted for centuries. And Abe was very supportive of Asian alliances and economic partnerships, unlike many other LDP politicians.
- astrange 4y ago
  Which genocides has Abe done? He was a nationalist PM once and then a (relatively) liberal PM a second much longer time. It's very silly to compare modern Japan to a dictatorship. Taiwan is not "like the rest of Asia"; it's only China and Korea that are mad about Japan. And in his second premiership Abe stopped Yasukuni Shrine visits, apologized to Korea, started a fund for descendants of comfort women and quietly suppressed anti-Korean hate groups at home.
  - chaostheory 4y ago
    Let’s not be disingenuous. He hasn’t committed any war crimes. His grandfather and his grandfather’s peers did. https://www.pacificwar.org.au/JapWarCrimes/Cross-section_JapWarCrimes.html https://www.pacificwar.org.au/JapWarCrimes/Cross-section_Jap... His government denies they ever happened https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-05-07-me-54705-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-05-07-me-54705-... https://time.com/5546/japanese-nhk-officials-world-war-ii/ https://time.com/5546/japanese-nhk-officials-world-war-ii/
    - astrange 4y ago
      This is a list of things other people did. (what's his grandfather got to do with it?) Everything I mentioned happened after 2014. However, he didn't do enough for median incomes (for a rich country the people are all generally kind of poor) or for women, who are more employed now but still underemployed and don't have nearly enough access to childcare.

vogre 4y ago

Criminals for ones, heroes for others. US has nuked Japanese cities, no one got punished for that. Abe was very pro-japanese, straight and honest politician. And very uncomfortable for the West.