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Japan has some super strict gun laws. The onlookers probably had no experience with firearm violence and didn't know to run away. More of a deer in headlights k

Japan has some super strict gun laws. The onlookers probably had no experience with firearm violence and didn't know to run away. More of a deer in headlights kind of shock when they saw the smoke. I guess "ghost gun" violence like this will become more normal in countries with restrictive gun laws as societies break down when the effects of climate change are really felt.

dagurp 4y ago
Interestingly, the gun looks home made https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/7/8/a6600155-4504-43ad-b73c-b385650ee937.jpg https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/v...
- jcims 4y ago
  It's definitely not modern 'smokeless' propellant either. Probably repurposed flash powder from fireworks or DIY.
bigDinosaur 4y ago
I'm as cynical and prone to doomsaying as much as anyone but there's nothing new in assassination attempts the world over and I don't think it's helpful to imply we're all gonna be dealing with mass 'ghost gun' violence due to climate change. Like, maybe, or maybe not.
- korijn 4y ago
  Perhaps I'm making a stupid assumption here but isn't almost all gun violence (outside the US) committed with unregistered and/or homemade weapons? Doesn't seem like anything unusual/new to me as a European. I also don't see the relationship with climate change.
  - icelancer 4y ago
    Unregistered, yes. Homemade, probably not. A large percentage of gun violence even inside the US is committed with unregistered weapons. The only events that see international media play are the mass event shootings at malls and such; these guns tend to be registered. More "typical" gun violence is committed regularly, and not with AR-style rifles (more typically 9mm carbines which are regulated as handguns in the US, as well as actual handguns).
    - agensaequivocum 4y ago
      There is no registry in America, (it's actually explicitly prohibited in statue) except for title II weapons federally, and in a handful of states.
  - squarefoot 4y ago
    Mostly unregistered/stolen, hardly homemade. AK-47s might be an exception since there are kits available online, official ones mostly from the US, but given how easily they're obtained in certain areas of the world I imagine there are loads of them smuggled by less official sellers from around the world.
  - socialdemocrat 4y ago
    The deadliest terror attacked in Europe at Utøya, Norway was carried out with a gun that the terrorist was a registered owner of. He had imported a high capacity magazine from a he US, as those are illegal in most of Europe. But gun violence in Norway related to gangs is mostly from stolen guns. A terrorist however may not have a criminal network to use in order to obtain a gun. This they may have to go through the much slower legal route.
hibernator149 4y ago
Yeah, I'm really envious of US citizens with all their hands on experience with active shooters. /sarcasm I'd much rather be in a low-gun apocalypse than a high-gun one. Because I can run away from a guy with a knive, but not from a gun. Also, what I never understood: no matter how many guns I carry, I still die to a single bullet in the back. So why should I feel saver in a high-gun environment?
- DFHippie 4y ago
  As an American I've never understood the "good guy with a gun" theory either. Murderers do not generally announce their intent and instances of violence being prevented, as opposed to eventually brought to an end, by other shooters are rare enough to be news events. Certainly they are much less common than mass shootings. Where I live I've never seen anyone strolling around with their guns on display, but when I see someone announce their enthusiasm for the 2nd Amendment I don't perceive a peace keeper. I perceive someone trying to antagonize and dominate liberals. I perceive it as a threat directed at the people without guns.
  - DFHippie 4y ago
    I should say rather that I have an understanding of the "good guy with a gun" theory, but it is that it is a public excuse which sounds better than other motivations. It sounds better than "I just like guns" or "I like to get my way by threat when I can't get it by persuasion" or "I am gratified by the fear and anxiety of my enemies", etc.
    - nobodyandproud 4y ago
      It’s an extension of a good samaritan and believing in the basic goodness of others. If you have individuals willing to harm, then certainly there are individuals nearby willing to help out. But only if they’re not defanged. This is the most extreme case: https://youtu.be/uRc_FlmW2Jc https://youtu.be/uRc_FlmW2Jc
      - 4y ago
int_19h 4y ago
I think we're more likely to see drones rigged with explosives as a go-to method for political assassinations. Guns aren't that hard to make, but getting close enough to use one is another matter.

dagurp 4y ago

Interestingly, the gun looks home made https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/7/8/a6600155-4504-43ad-b73c-b385650ee937.jpg https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/v...

jcims 4y ago
It's definitely not modern 'smokeless' propellant either. Probably repurposed flash powder from fireworks or DIY.

bigDinosaur 4y ago

I'm as cynical and prone to doomsaying as much as anyone but there's nothing new in assassination attempts the world over and I don't think it's helpful to imply we're all gonna be dealing with mass 'ghost gun' violence due to climate change. Like, maybe, or maybe not.

korijn 4y ago
Perhaps I'm making a stupid assumption here but isn't almost all gun violence (outside the US) committed with unregistered and/or homemade weapons? Doesn't seem like anything unusual/new to me as a European. I also don't see the relationship with climate change.
- icelancer 4y ago
  Unregistered, yes. Homemade, probably not. A large percentage of gun violence even inside the US is committed with unregistered weapons. The only events that see international media play are the mass event shootings at malls and such; these guns tend to be registered. More "typical" gun violence is committed regularly, and not with AR-style rifles (more typically 9mm carbines which are regulated as handguns in the US, as well as actual handguns).
  - agensaequivocum 4y ago
    There is no registry in America, (it's actually explicitly prohibited in statue) except for title II weapons federally, and in a handful of states.
- squarefoot 4y ago
  Mostly unregistered/stolen, hardly homemade. AK-47s might be an exception since there are kits available online, official ones mostly from the US, but given how easily they're obtained in certain areas of the world I imagine there are loads of them smuggled by less official sellers from around the world.
- socialdemocrat 4y ago
  The deadliest terror attacked in Europe at Utøya, Norway was carried out with a gun that the terrorist was a registered owner of. He had imported a high capacity magazine from a he US, as those are illegal in most of Europe. But gun violence in Norway related to gangs is mostly from stolen guns. A terrorist however may not have a criminal network to use in order to obtain a gun. This they may have to go through the much slower legal route.

hibernator149 4y ago

Yeah, I'm really envious of US citizens with all their hands on experience with active shooters. /sarcasm I'd much rather be in a low-gun apocalypse than a high-gun one. Because I can run away from a guy with a knive, but not from a gun. Also, what I never understood: no matter how many guns I carry, I still die to a single bullet in the back. So why should I feel saver in a high-gun environment?

DFHippie 4y ago
As an American I've never understood the "good guy with a gun" theory either. Murderers do not generally announce their intent and instances of violence being prevented, as opposed to eventually brought to an end, by other shooters are rare enough to be news events. Certainly they are much less common than mass shootings. Where I live I've never seen anyone strolling around with their guns on display, but when I see someone announce their enthusiasm for the 2nd Amendment I don't perceive a peace keeper. I perceive someone trying to antagonize and dominate liberals. I perceive it as a threat directed at the people without guns.
- DFHippie 4y ago
  I should say rather that I have an understanding of the "good guy with a gun" theory, but it is that it is a public excuse which sounds better than other motivations. It sounds better than "I just like guns" or "I like to get my way by threat when I can't get it by persuasion" or "I am gratified by the fear and anxiety of my enemies", etc.
  - nobodyandproud 4y ago
    It’s an extension of a good samaritan and believing in the basic goodness of others. If you have individuals willing to harm, then certainly there are individuals nearby willing to help out. But only if they’re not defanged. This is the most extreme case: https://youtu.be/uRc_FlmW2Jc https://youtu.be/uRc_FlmW2Jc
    - 4y ago

int_19h 4y ago

I think we're more likely to see drones rigged with explosives as a go-to method for political assassinations. Guns aren't that hard to make, but getting close enough to use one is another matter.