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You don’t even know that any other policy would be better, because we can’t rewind and retry. And economy is not everything - I don’t think Boris Johnson became

You don’t even know that any other policy would be better, because we can’t rewind and retry. And economy is not everything - I don’t think Boris Johnson became unpopular over the economy.

hutzlibu 4y ago
"And economy is not everything - I don’t think Boris Johnson became unpopular over the economy." But the economy is a very basic, essential thing. If it is bad, things are indeed bad for many people, which counts more to them than the great politic. Johnson would not have to worry about anything, if the UK's economy would be running smoothly. Which it does not and the brexit is basically still unsolved and a great feeling of insecurity remains. This might finally bring him down, not all the scandals.
- zimpenfish 4y ago
  > This might finally bring him down, not all the scandals. He resigned yesterday, he's been brought down. But it wasn't really the economy, I think, as much as people harbouring hopes of being PM getting sick of being made to look idiots by his constantly changing stories.
  - pjc50 4y ago
    He's still Prime Minister until he's replaced. Which is probably inevitable, but like in all horror movies you need to make sure the monster is actually dead before your relax.
- tialaramex 4y ago
  > This might finally bring him down, not all the scandals. I can't tell if you aren't aware he resigned or if your meaning here is that you figure Johnson will stand, be re-elected by his MPs and then pretend everything is back to normal, presumably while continuing to leak MPs to both by-election defeats and defections. I wouldn't put it past Boris to attempt such a thing, but my guess is that it would be humiliating. There are dozens of MPs who'd back Boris in the hope of some reward, but far more see this as a useless cause and want to be first in line for a ministerial job under one of his rivals who might survive a general election.
  - pjc50 4y ago
    That is more or less what happened to the first attempt to remove him by the 1922 ctte, though.
  - hutzlibu 4y ago
    "I can't tell if you aren't aware he resigned" No, I was not yet of that aware at the time of writing.
- vanattab 4y ago
  >This might finally bring him down, not all the scandals. Didn't he resigned yesterday because of the scandals????
  - hutzlibu 4y ago
    Apparently yes, but my point still stands, that he would have survived 1000s of more scandals, if he would have managed a optimistic economy outlook.
- pletnes 4y ago
  Agree, but brexit won the referendum even though both sides agreed it would be bad for the economy.

You don’t even know that any other policy would be better, because we can’t rewind and retry. And economy is not everything - I don’t think Boris Johnson became unpopular over the economy.

hutzlibu 4y ago

"And economy is not everything - I don’t think Boris Johnson became unpopular over the economy." But the economy is a very basic, essential thing. If it is bad, things are indeed bad for many people, which counts more to them than the great politic. Johnson would not have to worry about anything, if the UK's economy would be running smoothly. Which it does not and the brexit is basically still unsolved and a great feeling of insecurity remains. This might finally bring him down, not all the scandals.

zimpenfish 4y ago
> This might finally bring him down, not all the scandals. He resigned yesterday, he's been brought down. But it wasn't really the economy, I think, as much as people harbouring hopes of being PM getting sick of being made to look idiots by his constantly changing stories.
- pjc50 4y ago
  He's still Prime Minister until he's replaced. Which is probably inevitable, but like in all horror movies you need to make sure the monster is actually dead before your relax.
tialaramex 4y ago
> This might finally bring him down, not all the scandals. I can't tell if you aren't aware he resigned or if your meaning here is that you figure Johnson will stand, be re-elected by his MPs and then pretend everything is back to normal, presumably while continuing to leak MPs to both by-election defeats and defections. I wouldn't put it past Boris to attempt such a thing, but my guess is that it would be humiliating. There are dozens of MPs who'd back Boris in the hope of some reward, but far more see this as a useless cause and want to be first in line for a ministerial job under one of his rivals who might survive a general election.
- pjc50 4y ago
  That is more or less what happened to the first attempt to remove him by the 1922 ctte, though.
- hutzlibu 4y ago
  "I can't tell if you aren't aware he resigned" No, I was not yet of that aware at the time of writing.
vanattab 4y ago
>This might finally bring him down, not all the scandals. Didn't he resigned yesterday because of the scandals????
- hutzlibu 4y ago
  Apparently yes, but my point still stands, that he would have survived 1000s of more scandals, if he would have managed a optimistic economy outlook.
pletnes 4y ago
Agree, but brexit won the referendum even though both sides agreed it would be bad for the economy.