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I think you are misrepresenting a bit. Would you have a source that people in Poland got jailed for "insulting" the church or politician? Or peaceful protest?

I think you are misrepresenting a bit. Would you have a source that people in Poland got jailed for "insulting" the church or politician? Or peaceful protest? Prosecutions I know are for something else; spraying on centuries old statues, throwing stones and so on. "Thought crime" in UK is not criminal offense, so there are no criminal charges. You get knock on door, invitation to police station and a fine. "Hate crime" is another level. Some guy did stunt with pig fat. He died in prison, authorities put him into maximum security prison with radical islamists. "Insulting religion" in UK is serious offense punishable by death!

gambiting 4y ago
You mean you haven't heard about those cases? It's not spraying centuries old statues - it's the catholics complaining about being offended again: https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/wroclaw-obraza-uczuc-religijnych-w-pizzerii-interweniowala-policja-6661957385730816a https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/wroclaw-obraza-uczuc-religijnych-w-... https://oko.press/podlesna-zatrzymana-matka-teczowa/ https://oko.press/podlesna-zatrzymana-matka-teczowa/ Not to mention that a whole bunch of things just got criminalized online if they offend the church, like........mentioning that it's the leading source of pedophiles in this country: https://aszdziennik.pl/138364,10-sposobow-na-obrazenie-kosciola-za-ktore-warto-isc-do-wiezienia https://aszdziennik.pl/138364,10-sposobow-na-obrazenie-kosci... The number of police interventions for people being offended online due to religion has been going up steadily every year: https://prawo.gazetaprawna.pl/artykuly/8053551,przestepstwo-obrazy-uczuc-religijnych-coraz-czestsze-w-2020-r-29-aktow-oskarzenia.html https://prawo.gazetaprawna.pl/artykuly/8053551,przestepstwo-... >>"Insulting religion" in UK is serious offense punishable by death! I am aware of that case, like I said, it shouldn't happen and two wrongs don't make a right. But I definitely feel like you are far more likely to get into trouble for this in Poland than in the UK, and it has nothing to do with the level of surveilance in society.
- zeroth32 4y ago
  So one pending case and some opinion pieces. Do you have actual person who did time in jail? I can provide some for UK.... > mentioning that it's the leading source of pedophiles in this country Ehm, Rotherham...? > two wrongs don't make a right You claim Poland is much worse. I want similar case from Poland... > I definitely feel like you are far more likely to get into trouble for this in Poland than in the UK Poland is a post communist country, there is a big aversion to totalitarian govs. Comparing LGBT activism in rural Poland and ultra liberal parts of London, is not valid. Go to Luton or Yorkshire and see what happens...
  - johnday 4y ago
    > Comparing LGBT activism in rural Poland and ultra liberal parts of London, is not valid. Go to Luton or Yorkshire and see what happens... Oh, you mean like Pride in Luton (https://prideinluton.org/ https://prideinluton.org/) or Yorkshire Pride? (https://www.yorkshire.com/inspiration/features/yorkshire-pride https://www.yorkshire.com/inspiration/features/yorkshire-pri...)

gambiting 4y ago

You mean you haven't heard about those cases? It's not spraying centuries old statues - it's the catholics complaining about being offended again: https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/wroclaw-obraza-uczuc-religijnych-w-pizzerii-interweniowala-policja-6661957385730816a https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/wroclaw-obraza-uczuc-religijnych-w-... https://oko.press/podlesna-zatrzymana-matka-teczowa/ https://oko.press/podlesna-zatrzymana-matka-teczowa/ Not to mention that a whole bunch of things just got criminalized online if they offend the church, like........mentioning that it's the leading source of pedophiles in this country: https://aszdziennik.pl/138364,10-sposobow-na-obrazenie-kosciola-za-ktore-warto-isc-do-wiezienia https://aszdziennik.pl/138364,10-sposobow-na-obrazenie-kosci... The number of police interventions for people being offended online due to religion has been going up steadily every year: https://prawo.gazetaprawna.pl/artykuly/8053551,przestepstwo-obrazy-uczuc-religijnych-coraz-czestsze-w-2020-r-29-aktow-oskarzenia.html https://prawo.gazetaprawna.pl/artykuly/8053551,przestepstwo-... >>"Insulting religion" in UK is serious offense punishable by death! I am aware of that case, like I said, it shouldn't happen and two wrongs don't make a right. But I definitely feel like you are far more likely to get into trouble for this in Poland than in the UK, and it has nothing to do with the level of surveilance in society.

zeroth32 4y ago
So one pending case and some opinion pieces. Do you have actual person who did time in jail? I can provide some for UK.... > mentioning that it's the leading source of pedophiles in this country Ehm, Rotherham...? > two wrongs don't make a right You claim Poland is much worse. I want similar case from Poland... > I definitely feel like you are far more likely to get into trouble for this in Poland than in the UK Poland is a post communist country, there is a big aversion to totalitarian govs. Comparing LGBT activism in rural Poland and ultra liberal parts of London, is not valid. Go to Luton or Yorkshire and see what happens...
- johnday 4y ago
  > Comparing LGBT activism in rural Poland and ultra liberal parts of London, is not valid. Go to Luton or Yorkshire and see what happens... Oh, you mean like Pride in Luton (https://prideinluton.org/ https://prideinluton.org/) or Yorkshire Pride? (https://www.yorkshire.com/inspiration/features/yorkshire-pride https://www.yorkshire.com/inspiration/features/yorkshire-pri...)