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For accusing others of being highly emotional, this post is incredibly biased and doesn't hold a fact check. - the Greens are the party most opposed to brown c

For accusing others of being highly emotional, this post is incredibly biased and doesn't hold a fact check. - the Greens are the party most opposed to brown coal out of all German parties. - Gas is far less emissions intense than most other forms of fossil fuels, so it is a good transitional source of energy. - Germanies nuclear plants were built around 40 years ago, with a lifetime in mind of 40 years. The idea of arguing they can run longer because nothing happened in the last 40 years is preposterous, and betrays a complete lack of understanding of how industry works. Not only are the designs lacking essential security features, every single part was produced with 40 year lifetime in mind. - the three plants that where built in 87 are going to continue to run for now.

EUROCARE 4y ago
> - Germanies nuclear plants were built around 40 years ago, with a lifetime in mind of 40 years. The idea of arguing they can run longer because nothing happened in the last 40 years is preposterous, and betrays a complete lack of understanding of how industry works. Not only are the designs lacking essential security features, every single part was produced with 40 year lifetime in mind. It's normal to do a general maintenance (with upgrades to recent security standard) at the end of projected lifetime and then run it for another 40 years. It's absolute - economically speaking - bullshit to destroy a mostly-good nuclear power plant. It's not like the reactor core is the only thing there, anyways - even replacing it would be much better than tearing the place down. The worst thing is - you lose experts, and they don't train new experts. And then there's no one to bring the nuclear power plant up again, or build a new one. Lost technology...
- Retric 4y ago
  That's simply false, shutting down a nuclear power plant is extremely fucking expensive. Operators would love to cheaply extend the lifespan, but maintenance costs get so horrific over time it's simply not an option. It's like trying to keep an old car on the road, except a few critical components are highly radioactive.
rjzzleep 4y ago
Facts are still facts and reality is still reality. The greens are calling for a reactivation of brown coal power plants[1]. Literally the dirtiest of all energy(including coal). You can bring up your "facts" about Germany's nuclear power plants all you want. But the green policies are part of the reason why the investment in nuclear was halted and on top of that the German Taxpayer had to foot a massive payout to nuclear plant operators for the premature exit. [2] [1] https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/technologie/erdgas-braunkohle-steinkohle-ersatz-verstromung-101.html https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/technologie/erdgas-brau... [2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-utilities-nuclear-exit-idUKKBN0NB18S20150420 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-utilities-nuclear...
llampx 4y ago
Sorry, but Die Grüne (The Greens) in Germany lost the plot a long time ago. Where they are in power for a long time, for example in BaWu, they are basically the CDU but greenwashed. "Sie kennen mich" anyone?

EUROCARE 4y ago

> - Germanies nuclear plants were built around 40 years ago, with a lifetime in mind of 40 years. The idea of arguing they can run longer because nothing happened in the last 40 years is preposterous, and betrays a complete lack of understanding of how industry works. Not only are the designs lacking essential security features, every single part was produced with 40 year lifetime in mind. It's normal to do a general maintenance (with upgrades to recent security standard) at the end of projected lifetime and then run it for another 40 years. It's absolute - economically speaking - bullshit to destroy a mostly-good nuclear power plant. It's not like the reactor core is the only thing there, anyways - even replacing it would be much better than tearing the place down. The worst thing is - you lose experts, and they don't train new experts. And then there's no one to bring the nuclear power plant up again, or build a new one. Lost technology...

Retric 4y ago
That's simply false, shutting down a nuclear power plant is extremely fucking expensive. Operators would love to cheaply extend the lifespan, but maintenance costs get so horrific over time it's simply not an option. It's like trying to keep an old car on the road, except a few critical components are highly radioactive.

rjzzleep 4y ago

Facts are still facts and reality is still reality. The greens are calling for a reactivation of brown coal power plants[1]. Literally the dirtiest of all energy(including coal). You can bring up your "facts" about Germany's nuclear power plants all you want. But the green policies are part of the reason why the investment in nuclear was halted and on top of that the German Taxpayer had to foot a massive payout to nuclear plant operators for the premature exit. [2] [1] https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/technologie/erdgas-braunkohle-steinkohle-ersatz-verstromung-101.html https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/technologie/erdgas-brau... [2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-utilities-nuclear-exit-idUKKBN0NB18S20150420 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-utilities-nuclear...

llampx 4y ago

Sorry, but Die Grüne (The Greens) in Germany lost the plot a long time ago. Where they are in power for a long time, for example in BaWu, they are basically the CDU but greenwashed. "Sie kennen mich" anyone?