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What in the cinnamon toast fuck. It's literally the meme about bombing middle eastern kids with pride flag drones. Somebody please explain to the CIA we don't

What in the cinnamon toast fuck. It's literally the meme about bombing middle eastern kids with pride flag drones. Somebody please explain to the CIA we don't want performative wokie bullshit just for them to stop torturing black bagging and murdering and selling crack and abusing ppls rights.

salt-thrower 4y ago
remarkEon 4y ago
If you squint hard enough, you can imagine a scenario where CIA actually wants to hire people with anxiety and other mood/psychological disorders to that they can be more easily controlled. It's Machiavellian but, well, this is CIA we're talking about.
spamizbad 4y ago
The CIA is trying to hire young, college-educated people. They tend to skew fairly permissive on social issues. Just to give you an idea of where the culture is: There's a defense industry "shitposting" subreddit that is full of younger, pro-America, pro defense industry types and its members would likely fit your definition of "woke". There's a whole group of them on twitter too tied in with the osint community.
- daemoens 4y ago
  r/NonCredibleDefense for anyone wondering
- pxc 4y ago
  'woke' imperialism, what a joke
  - spamizbad 4y ago
    It's really just a side-effect of culture war victories. The US is an imperialist power and like all other imperialist powers it will project its zeitgeist out into the world. If conservatives won the culture wars the CIA would be trying to hire Proud Boys and Jordan Peterson fans or whatever. Go back 20 years when Evangelical Christianity was at its zenith of cultural power and what did we get? Two invasions of Muslim countries and paranoia that agnostics and atheists were national security liabilities because a hypothetical invading Muslim hoard would convert them to Islam (yes, this was actually a scenario bandied about in those circles) and recruit them to become terrorists.
    - nebula8804 4y ago
      I don't really buy your argument that the progressives won the culture wars. Sure big business pretends to lean left because they want to appeal to a mass global audience but where have all the real wins been? Roe vs Wade: gone, Gun reform: nonexistant, LGBTQ rights: put on notice. Hell the left is back to wandering the woods again after the last election. All they have are "paper wins". Ie. rhetoric but no substance. >Go back 20 years when Evangelical Christianity was at its zenith of cultural power and what did we get? Was? You mean still is. The continued investment and growth of apartheid-Israel proves that. Unless you have an argument for how Israel as it stands is on the way out, I don't buy that argument one bit.
      - busterarm 4y ago
        If you truly don't believe that progessives won the culture war, try being slightly to the right of Bill Maher anywhere on campus, in entertainment, in media, in your workplace or on twitter...
        nebula8804 4y ago
        Ok so right wingers get occasionally harassed in some left wing areas. That is a response to the fact that right wingers have continually made progress while the left has gotten nothing really concrete(again: row vs wade: lost, lgbtq rights: in danger, gun reform: nonexistent). Culture drives law long term and so its difficult to admit that the culture war has been won by the left if they keep losing everything except the conversation which clearly does not matter in the long term if it results in no meaningful change.
  - notlukesky 4y ago
    More on the woke empire: https://peacediplomacy.org/2022/06/27/woke-imperium-the-coming-confluence-between-social-justice-and-neoconservatism/ https://peacediplomacy.org/2022/06/27/woke-imperium-the-comi...
- formerly_proven 4y ago
  The major defense contractors all have excellent diversity and equity ratings with e.g. the HRC. Transgender individuals are also much more common in the US military compared to the general population.
  - cumshitpiss 4y ago
    The irony of the "human right campaign" giving defense companies awards should tell you how much to value their opinions. HRC regularly donates to anti LGBT republicans. >Transgender individuals are also much more common in the US military compared to the general population. Ok and? Both entities kill more LGBT people than they've employed or supported (changing Twitter profiles doesn't count as support).
    - rmbyrro 4y ago
      > Both entities kill more LGBT people than they've employed That would most likely be the result of intent persecution of LGBT. This would be shocking coming from the US military or the general population. Would you have any statistics or any objective, impartial observation documented that supports it?
  - notlukesky 4y ago
    They gave a for-profit prison company high Diversity, Inclusion and Equity rating and ESG score because they put murals of Martin Luther King in the prison. Monty Python would have been proud: "The report, conducted by Moore & Van Allen, a North Carolina-based law firm, offered some room for improvement but largely applauded the private prison giant for its “genuine” commitment to diversity principles, including by raising cultural awareness with a mural of Martin Luther King Jr. at one of its Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention centers in Arizona." https://theintercept.com/2022/06/27/esg-funds-corporate-responsibility-dei/ https://theintercept.com/2022/06/27/esg-funds-corporate-resp...
usrn 4y ago
astrange 4y ago
If you want them to stop doing that you do in fact want them to hire more people who would be against it, otherwise it's going to be all Mormons. (they're the best at getting clearances)
- feet 4y ago
  Its the magic underwear and the fact that they literally think black people are evil (I'm not exaggerating its in the religion)
  - tekknik 4y ago
    > the fact that they literally think black people are evil (I'm not exaggerating its in the religion) Not anymore: https://www.alternet.org/2013/12/mormon-church-dark-skin-sign-gods-curse-no-longer/ https://www.alternet.org/2013/12/mormon-church-dark-skin-sig...
    - feet 4y ago
      Hey its a positive change, although I do hope that old timers aren't teaching young ones about the older way of thinking.
zasdffaa 4y ago
where does '(metaphorical) bombing middle eastern kids' come into it? Where are middle eastern kids mentioned? What drones? WTF did you just watch or did you make stuff up? It's just about a trans person saying "it's ok to be me" (irritating shit and no-one cares, good luck to her, but that's all it is). Nothing else.
- wolverine876 4y ago
  > It's just about a trans person saying "it's ok to be me" (irritating shit and no-one cares, good luck to her, but that's all it is). What is irritating about it? There's clearly a large problem with abuse of trans people, a serious issue of physical, social, and career safety. Why shouldn't someone address that issue? Why the F should that irritate you?
  - zasdffaa 4y ago
    There is a problem with {trans, homo, etc}-phobia. But this made a point of this person being trans for some cheesy inclusivity. None of the trans people I know talk about being trans, or wish to talk about it. No-one I've ever worked for would judge against someone for being trans. In a sense, it's a solved problem - once crappy publicity videos like this can be produced, the battle has largely already been won, or the video would never have been produced. I suppose the over-produced slickness of this, with it's almost zero contenet annoys me.
wolverine876 4y ago
So performative outrage and derogatory slander of people you disagree with. In other words, there is no substance at all for your claim.

salt-thrower 4y ago

remarkEon 4y ago

If you squint hard enough, you can imagine a scenario where CIA actually wants to hire people with anxiety and other mood/psychological disorders to that they can be more easily controlled. It's Machiavellian but, well, this is CIA we're talking about.

spamizbad 4y ago

The CIA is trying to hire young, college-educated people. They tend to skew fairly permissive on social issues. Just to give you an idea of where the culture is: There's a defense industry "shitposting" subreddit that is full of younger, pro-America, pro defense industry types and its members would likely fit your definition of "woke". There's a whole group of them on twitter too tied in with the osint community.

daemoens 4y ago
r/NonCredibleDefense for anyone wondering
pxc 4y ago
'woke' imperialism, what a joke
- spamizbad 4y ago
  It's really just a side-effect of culture war victories. The US is an imperialist power and like all other imperialist powers it will project its zeitgeist out into the world. If conservatives won the culture wars the CIA would be trying to hire Proud Boys and Jordan Peterson fans or whatever. Go back 20 years when Evangelical Christianity was at its zenith of cultural power and what did we get? Two invasions of Muslim countries and paranoia that agnostics and atheists were national security liabilities because a hypothetical invading Muslim hoard would convert them to Islam (yes, this was actually a scenario bandied about in those circles) and recruit them to become terrorists.
  - nebula8804 4y ago
    I don't really buy your argument that the progressives won the culture wars. Sure big business pretends to lean left because they want to appeal to a mass global audience but where have all the real wins been? Roe vs Wade: gone, Gun reform: nonexistant, LGBTQ rights: put on notice. Hell the left is back to wandering the woods again after the last election. All they have are "paper wins". Ie. rhetoric but no substance. >Go back 20 years when Evangelical Christianity was at its zenith of cultural power and what did we get? Was? You mean still is. The continued investment and growth of apartheid-Israel proves that. Unless you have an argument for how Israel as it stands is on the way out, I don't buy that argument one bit.
    - busterarm 4y ago
      If you truly don't believe that progessives won the culture war, try being slightly to the right of Bill Maher anywhere on campus, in entertainment, in media, in your workplace or on twitter...
      - nebula8804 4y ago
        Ok so right wingers get occasionally harassed in some left wing areas. That is a response to the fact that right wingers have continually made progress while the left has gotten nothing really concrete(again: row vs wade: lost, lgbtq rights: in danger, gun reform: nonexistent). Culture drives law long term and so its difficult to admit that the culture war has been won by the left if they keep losing everything except the conversation which clearly does not matter in the long term if it results in no meaningful change.
- notlukesky 4y ago
  More on the woke empire: https://peacediplomacy.org/2022/06/27/woke-imperium-the-coming-confluence-between-social-justice-and-neoconservatism/ https://peacediplomacy.org/2022/06/27/woke-imperium-the-comi...
formerly_proven 4y ago
The major defense contractors all have excellent diversity and equity ratings with e.g. the HRC. Transgender individuals are also much more common in the US military compared to the general population.
- cumshitpiss 4y ago
  The irony of the "human right campaign" giving defense companies awards should tell you how much to value their opinions. HRC regularly donates to anti LGBT republicans. >Transgender individuals are also much more common in the US military compared to the general population. Ok and? Both entities kill more LGBT people than they've employed or supported (changing Twitter profiles doesn't count as support).
  - rmbyrro 4y ago
    > Both entities kill more LGBT people than they've employed That would most likely be the result of intent persecution of LGBT. This would be shocking coming from the US military or the general population. Would you have any statistics or any objective, impartial observation documented that supports it?
- notlukesky 4y ago
  They gave a for-profit prison company high Diversity, Inclusion and Equity rating and ESG score because they put murals of Martin Luther King in the prison. Monty Python would have been proud: "The report, conducted by Moore & Van Allen, a North Carolina-based law firm, offered some room for improvement but largely applauded the private prison giant for its “genuine” commitment to diversity principles, including by raising cultural awareness with a mural of Martin Luther King Jr. at one of its Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention centers in Arizona." https://theintercept.com/2022/06/27/esg-funds-corporate-responsibility-dei/ https://theintercept.com/2022/06/27/esg-funds-corporate-resp...

usrn 4y ago

astrange 4y ago

If you want them to stop doing that you do in fact want them to hire more people who would be against it, otherwise it's going to be all Mormons. (they're the best at getting clearances)

feet 4y ago
Its the magic underwear and the fact that they literally think black people are evil (I'm not exaggerating its in the religion)
- tekknik 4y ago
  > the fact that they literally think black people are evil (I'm not exaggerating its in the religion) Not anymore: https://www.alternet.org/2013/12/mormon-church-dark-skin-sign-gods-curse-no-longer/ https://www.alternet.org/2013/12/mormon-church-dark-skin-sig...
  - feet 4y ago
    Hey its a positive change, although I do hope that old timers aren't teaching young ones about the older way of thinking.

zasdffaa 4y ago

where does '(metaphorical) bombing middle eastern kids' come into it? Where are middle eastern kids mentioned? What drones? WTF did you just watch or did you make stuff up? It's just about a trans person saying "it's ok to be me" (irritating shit and no-one cares, good luck to her, but that's all it is). Nothing else.

wolverine876 4y ago
> It's just about a trans person saying "it's ok to be me" (irritating shit and no-one cares, good luck to her, but that's all it is). What is irritating about it? There's clearly a large problem with abuse of trans people, a serious issue of physical, social, and career safety. Why shouldn't someone address that issue? Why the F should that irritate you?
- zasdffaa 4y ago
  There is a problem with {trans, homo, etc}-phobia. But this made a point of this person being trans for some cheesy inclusivity. None of the trans people I know talk about being trans, or wish to talk about it. No-one I've ever worked for would judge against someone for being trans. In a sense, it's a solved problem - once crappy publicity videos like this can be produced, the battle has largely already been won, or the video would never have been produced. I suppose the over-produced slickness of this, with it's almost zero contenet annoys me.

wolverine876 4y ago

So performative outrage and derogatory slander of people you disagree with. In other words, there is no substance at all for your claim.