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> (besides something like insisting kids clear it up, which is no fun!) Instructing kids to clean up their mess isn't just wholesome fun, but it also teaches
by klyrs 4y ago
> (besides something like insisting kids clear it up, which is no fun!)
Instructing kids to clean up their mess isn't just wholesome fun, but it also teaches a valuable life skill! Might not be much "fun" for them to start, but kids actually benefit from having responsibilities. And, if you make it a precondition for something they want to do, they'll be motivated!
- burrows 4y ago> but kids actually benefit from having responsibilities. Do they? I’m not sure what I learned from my parents insisting that I “clean” my room.
- nmstoker 4y agoMaybe it teaches a recognition of pointless overhead and a healthy distrust of people who would fit in too well in Compliance departments?
- burrows 4y agoMission accomplished.
- NikolaNovak 4y agoMost people, eventually, learn the value of cleaning their domicile (there are exceptions, of course). I think parents live in hope that their kids can learn that value earlier than they themselves have, or at least help share their lessons learned with their kids - this is true of many things in parent/child relationship -> we want/hope better for our kids. And let's not minimize the "I'm tired, I had to clean your room every night for the past 3 days/weeks/months/years/decades, you need to put some effort too!" aspect of course :-> It works various degrees of well or poorly with various kids, parents, and circumstances - like virtually anything else in parenting.
- bigDinosaur 4y agoPresumably you learnt that people will be unhappy if they're in a position of power over you and you don't do what they say.
- sgtnoodle 4y agoI make my 3 year old participate in cleaning up her toys. I always volunteer to help her, and we do it together. We do it consistently enough so that it's a habit, and she rarely complains. She visited her cousins recently and said, "those boys are very messy. They should clean up their toys!"
- burrows 4y agoAnd you desire this to continue? Isn’t she just mindlessly parroting what you say?
- sgtnoodle 4y agoNo, she has a mind with her own thoughts and emotions. Most children aren't zombies.
- burrows 4y agoAnd you know this how?
- klyrs 4y agoYou sound like you enjoy your freedom to live in squalor. Did you know that clutter leads to stress and anxiety? I teach my kid to fight for worthy causes, you're describing self-defeating pettiness.
- burrows 4y ago> You sound like you enjoy your freedom to live in squalor. Right. And more generally I just enjoy freedom. > Did you know that clutter leads to stress and anxiety? Thanks Mr Gladwell > I teach my kid to fight for worthy causes Right, because somehow you’ve got access to the secret knowledge of what is and isn’t worthy. > you're describing self-defeating pettiness. People flirt way too much on this site.
- klyrs 4y ago
- mattlondon 4y agoIt was always easier to find the toy you wanted in a clean and tidy room. Same thing applies as adults and non-toy items too.
- klyrs 4y agoI don't expect spic&span. The alternative is my kid can never find anything, because everything is in a pile on the floor. That's how you get ants (or worse).
- PebblesRox 4y agoYes, I know it's time to clean up the playroom when they stop playing with toys and start doing constant mischief instead. Toys become a lot more attractive once there's space to play and the pieces that belong together are not mixed up with a bunch of random junk.
- pawelmurias 4y agoLearning to clean. If you never did it as a child you would find that horribly annoying as an adult.
- q-big 4y ago> And, if you make it a precondition for something they want to do, they'll be motivated! For me, this was rather the beginning of my insanely deep hate for authorities and the power that they (ab)use.
- saiya-jin 4y agoThere are thousands of ways how to sell it to the kid, obviously the driest factual ones won't get much sympathy. But yes kids are hard, I would love to see comparison of 19th century 10-kid family and now... I feel like we are doing something wrong to have raising kids well so hard, but maybe its just that circumstances and expectations have changed completely
- oblio 4y ago> But yes kids are hard, I would love to see comparison of 19th century 10-kid family and now... I feel like we are doing something wrong to have raising kids well so hard, but maybe its just that circumstances and expectations have changed completely Families with 10 kids basically abandon most of them, after the first 1-2 and probably except for the last 1-2. Bigger kids take care of smaller ones, they become surrogate teenage parents. Humans are quite smart and so kids manage to survive, but it doesn't mean being a kid in such a family is a good life comparatively to being a kid today, in your regular family with 1-2-3 kids.
- dustymcp 4y agoI had a girlfriend who was 1 out of 14 (2 large families moving together) she was basically a mother at 10-12 years old doing chores washing clothes etc. they had 0 grown up time since both was working, needless to say alot of fuckery went on there..