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At this point nothing AI does (or could do) should come as a surprise. Humans will be completely outclassed in every scenario where AI is able to participate. T
by oldstrangers 4y ago
At this point nothing AI does (or could do) should come as a surprise. Humans will be completely outclassed in every scenario where AI is able to participate. The trick becomes how to benefit from AI as opposed to just entirely replacing human value.
- jvanderbot 4y agoI'd bet a lot of money they are following pre-optimized trajectories or policies, using onboard sensing to localize. I didn't get a good sense from the article whether the CAD model was only used at startup / online, or if they used the CAD and found routes or policies first (pre-trained) and followed / executed during. A great achievement, no doubt, but the days of hunter-killer drones flying willy nilly through arbitrary environments are not yet arrived.
- spoonjim 4y agoThe days of hunter-killer drones flying willy nilly through arbitrary environments is already here! What do you think Predator drones are doing in the Middle East?
- jvanderbot 4y agoArbitrary != high altitude loitering patterns. Arbitrary would include, like, your house, your yard, a coal mine, etc. That's a whole lotta autonomy that doesn't exist yet.
- melling 4y agoI imagine the military value will be too hard to overlook, and will get a lot of Defense dollars. A drone air force is much cheaper than a traditional one with pilots. Drone use is already evolving in warfare. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/column-drones-old-shells-key-070000440.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/column-drones-old-shells-key-... https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-teenager-and-father-used-drone-to-spy-on-russian-forces-and-help-ukraines-army-12632472 https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-teenager-and-father-u... Dozens of automated drones could make several quick surveillance runs on a regular basis, for example, using image recognition to report equipment location, etc
- Buttons840 4y ago> A drone air force is much cheaper than a traditional one with pilots. "Cheaper". This might be a reason it won't happen. At least not until wealthy militaries have learned some hard lessons.
- hodgesrm 4y agoHow are AI capabilities different from the introduction of guided missiles and fly-by-wire control in aeriel combat? Humans are still there but they take on different roles -- the end result is a much more formidable machine using blended capabilities. Framing the competition as AI vs. humans as in the UZH competition therefore seems to miss the point. Humans already can't fly high performance aircraft without machine help.
- tintor 4y agoNot always more formidable machine. Aircraft without human inside can be smaller, more expendable, can perform longer missions and tolerate higher g-forces.
- oldstrangers 4y agoIn the near term yes, humans and AI will have to work together. Eventually the only limiting factor in the AI's progress will be the human component. For stuff like these drones, where is the benefit of a human component? Picking the drone up off the ground? Being a spotter? Driving the drone to wherever you want it to fly? Lets take self driving cars for example. The benefit there is we no longer have to drive, but you also lose millions of jobs (taxis, trucking, etc). Capitalism isn't going to take a romantic approach to AI / human harmony. It will do what it always does, cut costs and turn profits at the absolute expense of everything that's not creating shareholder value. And to that extent, the military industrial complex will do exactly the same thing, just replace shareholder value with bloodshed.