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JetBrains/Intelij is increasing their prices

20 points by monksy 4y ago

monksy 4y ago
Took me more time than it really should have to find out how much the price change is. $89->101$ for renewals on intelij ultimate only. https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/#personal https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/#personal
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- tedyoung 4y ago
  You can also wait until September and then renew for 3 years to keep the current pricing through 2025. By then, inflation will have caught up and it'll be just as cheap in 2022 Dollars.
- tailspin2019 4y ago
  I was more annoyed by the lack of clarity in the announcement about what the price change actually was, than the idea of the price increase itself. JetBrains stuff gives me good value for money and after viewing the increased prices on your link, my view hasn’t really changed on this. Their software is good, and reasonably priced IMHO. As a side note: I also really appreciated the very clear stance they took on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine (and had this not been forthcoming I was ready to move away).
nikolay 4y ago
First, they lied to us - I paid a high initial price, it was supposed to be followed by a decreasing in time 3 or 4 annual payments, but they completely changed their pricing, and now they charge every year and now - they are even increasing the price! Given that I don't use their IDEs but agreed to get the promised lifetime license just in case, it's time to stop paying for something that I'm not using!
- tedyoung 4y ago
  The price still goes down every year, it's just at a higher price. (Not sure about your "high initial price" — was that a perpetual license?) Note that you can renew for 3 years at a time at the current pricing. And if you've been paying for it for a while, you can always use the perpetual fall-back license: https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/sections/201619995-Our-Licensing-Model-and-JetBrains-Toolbox https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/sections/201619995-Our-... If you're not using it, why pay for it?
  - nikolay 4y ago
    I explained - I wanted to get the promised lifetime license. I've been paying since 2015, which became the typical bait and switch.
    - t-writescode 4y ago
      You should still have a lifetime license for the version you most recently paid for. Is that not the case? E.g. if you bought the 2019 version, then, if you never pay another cent, in 2031, you still have a license for the 2019 version.
      - nikolay 4y ago
        That was not the original deal though. They changed their offering but did not grandfather us. No wonder - they are an Eastern European company, and such concepts don't exist there! Yeah, I can say that as I'm Eastern European myself.
        t-writescode 4y ago
        I’ve had my Jetbrains account for about 8 years. It’s been that way as long as I’ve had it. When did you get yours? Edit: grammar
        nikolay 4y ago
microtonal 4y ago
The first year of the all product pack went from 249.00 to 289.00 Euro including VAT. That's an increase of 16%. I think it's been a few years since the have increased their prices. Given the high inflation in Europe and the US this year, the price hike is not unreasonable.
throwaway5959 4y ago
Well, guess it’s time to put learning VS Code into higher gear.
- tedyoung 4y ago
  If you're coding in Java, is it really not worth a few hundred dollars to be incredibly more productive in a tool design for Java instead of a fancy text editor? IntelliJ IDEA is incredibly powerful, and it's worth learning things like its more complex automated refactorings, postfix completion, live templates, etc.
  - throwaway5959 4y ago
    Sure, but I’m not coding in Java any more. I’m coding in Python, Go and Rust which all have great VS Code support.
maxique 4y ago
Previously discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31918433 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31918433

20 points by monksy 4y ago

Took me more time than it really should have to find out how much the price change is. $89->101$ for renewals on intelij ultimate only. https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/#personal https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/#personal

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tedyoung 4y ago
You can also wait until September and then renew for 3 years to keep the current pricing through 2025. By then, inflation will have caught up and it'll be just as cheap in 2022 Dollars.
tailspin2019 4y ago
I was more annoyed by the lack of clarity in the announcement about what the price change actually was, than the idea of the price increase itself. JetBrains stuff gives me good value for money and after viewing the increased prices on your link, my view hasn’t really changed on this. Their software is good, and reasonably priced IMHO. As a side note: I also really appreciated the very clear stance they took on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine (and had this not been forthcoming I was ready to move away).

nikolay 4y ago

First, they lied to us - I paid a high initial price, it was supposed to be followed by a decreasing in time 3 or 4 annual payments, but they completely changed their pricing, and now they charge every year and now - they are even increasing the price! Given that I don't use their IDEs but agreed to get the promised lifetime license just in case, it's time to stop paying for something that I'm not using!

tedyoung 4y ago
The price still goes down every year, it's just at a higher price. (Not sure about your "high initial price" — was that a perpetual license?) Note that you can renew for 3 years at a time at the current pricing. And if you've been paying for it for a while, you can always use the perpetual fall-back license: https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/sections/201619995-Our-Licensing-Model-and-JetBrains-Toolbox https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/sections/201619995-Our-... If you're not using it, why pay for it?
- nikolay 4y ago
  I explained - I wanted to get the promised lifetime license. I've been paying since 2015, which became the typical bait and switch.
  - t-writescode 4y ago
    You should still have a lifetime license for the version you most recently paid for. Is that not the case? E.g. if you bought the 2019 version, then, if you never pay another cent, in 2031, you still have a license for the 2019 version.
    - nikolay 4y ago
      That was not the original deal though. They changed their offering but did not grandfather us. No wonder - they are an Eastern European company, and such concepts don't exist there! Yeah, I can say that as I'm Eastern European myself.
      - t-writescode 4y ago
        I’ve had my Jetbrains account for about 8 years. It’s been that way as long as I’ve had it. When did you get yours? Edit: grammar
        nikolay 4y ago

microtonal 4y ago

The first year of the all product pack went from 249.00 to 289.00 Euro including VAT. That's an increase of 16%. I think it's been a few years since the have increased their prices. Given the high inflation in Europe and the US this year, the price hike is not unreasonable.

throwaway5959 4y ago

Well, guess it’s time to put learning VS Code into higher gear.

tedyoung 4y ago
If you're coding in Java, is it really not worth a few hundred dollars to be incredibly more productive in a tool design for Java instead of a fancy text editor? IntelliJ IDEA is incredibly powerful, and it's worth learning things like its more complex automated refactorings, postfix completion, live templates, etc.
- throwaway5959 4y ago
  Sure, but I’m not coding in Java any more. I’m coding in Python, Go and Rust which all have great VS Code support.

maxique 4y ago

Previously discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31918433 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31918433