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So, good news? I hope this means more will go to underdeveloped countries now. The African continent averages at 40 doses per 100 people while the rest of the

So, good news? I hope this means more will go to underdeveloped countries now. The African continent averages at 40 doses per 100 people while the rest of the world is at 154 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1245573/covid-19-vaccination-rate-in-africa-compared-to-the-world/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1245573/covid-19-vaccina... The NYT’s visualization makes this painfully clear: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccina...

bsaul 4y ago
"painfully clear " although it's quite unclear if (most of) those countries really need vaccines. Their fatality rate has always been orders of magnitude lower than in eur / us..
- Trouble_007 4y ago
  >Their fatality rate has always been orders of magnitude lower than in eur / us..< You might like to look at the life-expectancy figures for those Countries.
  - alaxsxaq 4y ago
    You might like to explain how population life-expectancy figures correlate with covid fatality rates in a meaningful way.
    - __blockcipher__ 4y ago
      I'll take this one. The vast majority of COVID risk is stratified in the very elderly and/or those with diseases of modernity / metabolic syndrome type conditions. Both of those categories (age & diseases of modernity) are much more present in wealthy, fat first-world countries than they are 2nd and 3rd world countries. Thus the utility of reducing COVID mortality is much, much lower in those less "advanced" countries. I'd also add that even if the absolute death weren't lower in the 3rd world, the relative death would. Being able to be freaked out about an average of .3% chance of dying of COVID if infected is a luxury that those countries struggling with malaria, rampant malnutrition, and insufficient non-COVID vaccination don't really have.
    - ketchupdog 4y ago
      Risk of death due to covid is heavily weighted by age. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi...
    - Trouble_007 4y ago
      You might like to explain how population life-expectancy figures correlate with covid fatality rates in a meaningful way. You might like to explain why they don't, given the death-rate exponentially increases with age.
- antisthenes 4y ago
  > Their fatality rate has always been orders of magnitude lower than in eur / us Their reported fatality rate.
  - jrumbut 4y ago
    Not sure why this is down voted. In the most developed and transparent countries cause of death data leave a lot to be desired.
- anonAndOn 4y ago
  >fatality rate has always been orders of magnitude lower than in eur / us Is that because of superior health care and strong leadership, like in North Korea?
abduhl 4y ago
Is this a supply or demand issue? Do Africans want COVID vaccines from the west and do Africans want to be vaccinated?
- Trouble_007 4y ago
  >Is this a supply or demand issue?< Cold-chain transport, storage, distribution, staff to inject, syringes and sundries.
cat_plus_plus 4y ago
Even in underdeveloped countries most have probably been exposed multiple times and built up natural immunity. Although AIDS and other comorbidities could be a problem in Africa and perhaps China needs lots of doses to mitigate consequences of zero COVID. If their official case stats are to be trusted that is.
liampulles 4y ago
South African here: may be different in other African nations but we have had plenty of supply for a while: people simply don't want to get vaccinated. It is not just the west that has "vaccine hesitancy".

bsaul 4y ago

"painfully clear " although it's quite unclear if (most of) those countries really need vaccines. Their fatality rate has always been orders of magnitude lower than in eur / us..

Trouble_007 4y ago
>Their fatality rate has always been orders of magnitude lower than in eur / us..< You might like to look at the life-expectancy figures for those Countries.
- alaxsxaq 4y ago
  You might like to explain how population life-expectancy figures correlate with covid fatality rates in a meaningful way.
  - __blockcipher__ 4y ago
    I'll take this one. The vast majority of COVID risk is stratified in the very elderly and/or those with diseases of modernity / metabolic syndrome type conditions. Both of those categories (age & diseases of modernity) are much more present in wealthy, fat first-world countries than they are 2nd and 3rd world countries. Thus the utility of reducing COVID mortality is much, much lower in those less "advanced" countries. I'd also add that even if the absolute death weren't lower in the 3rd world, the relative death would. Being able to be freaked out about an average of .3% chance of dying of COVID if infected is a luxury that those countries struggling with malaria, rampant malnutrition, and insufficient non-COVID vaccination don't really have.
  - ketchupdog 4y ago
    Risk of death due to covid is heavily weighted by age. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi...
  - Trouble_007 4y ago
    You might like to explain how population life-expectancy figures correlate with covid fatality rates in a meaningful way. You might like to explain why they don't, given the death-rate exponentially increases with age.
antisthenes 4y ago
> Their fatality rate has always been orders of magnitude lower than in eur / us Their reported fatality rate.
- jrumbut 4y ago
  Not sure why this is down voted. In the most developed and transparent countries cause of death data leave a lot to be desired.
anonAndOn 4y ago
>fatality rate has always been orders of magnitude lower than in eur / us Is that because of superior health care and strong leadership, like in North Korea?

abduhl 4y ago

Is this a supply or demand issue? Do Africans want COVID vaccines from the west and do Africans want to be vaccinated?

Trouble_007 4y ago
>Is this a supply or demand issue?< Cold-chain transport, storage, distribution, staff to inject, syringes and sundries.

cat_plus_plus 4y ago

Even in underdeveloped countries most have probably been exposed multiple times and built up natural immunity. Although AIDS and other comorbidities could be a problem in Africa and perhaps China needs lots of doses to mitigate consequences of zero COVID. If their official case stats are to be trusted that is.

liampulles 4y ago

South African here: may be different in other African nations but we have had plenty of supply for a while: people simply don't want to get vaccinated. It is not just the west that has "vaccine hesitancy".