When you say that you would never hang out with "the Lisp community" because you want to build great products, I take that as an implication that the language,

When you say that you would never hang out with "the Lisp community" because you want to build great products, I take that as an implication that the language, the community, or both, are incompatible with building great products. That attitude, to me, is a large turn-off. I disagree with your notion that Lisp code has to be re-written into another language to address the minutia. I address minutia in Scheme a lot.