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I've actually found it quite hard to find Ryzen 6000 laptops with just an iGPU. RDNA2 would be perfect for me, you lose the weight and cooling issues that come

I've actually found it quite hard to find Ryzen 6000 laptops with just an iGPU. RDNA2 would be perfect for me, you lose the weight and cooling issues that come with a dGPU but still have enough graphical performance to play some games.

neogodless 4y ago
Not to say they are common, but they are out there. https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/For-Home/Zenbook/Zenbook-S-13-OLED-UM5302-AMD-Ryzen-6000-series/ https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/For-Home/Zenbook/Zenbook-S-1... https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/thinkpad-p16s-(16-inch-amd)/len101t0038 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/th...
- seiferteric 4y ago
  And yet there is no "buy now" button and when I go to find the laptop I click on laptops -> for work -> all series -> filter processors -> "more" -> ryzen 7 ... not a single ryzen 6xxx shows up... Seems they are not acutually for sale yet. Same story for lenovo, the laptops with 5xxx cpu's can ship tomorrow, but the 6xxx cpus ship in "3+ months"... so ya, they are not actually available yet.
- bodge5000 4y ago
  P16s looks perfect. I didn't want to say in my original post as it was a bit me-specific, but I'm also looking only for 16"+ laptops, and want to avoid the gamer aesthetic a lot of them seem to have, so the P16s looks perfect. Port selection and positioning is a bit odd, but hopefully ultradocks still exist for these newer thinkpads. I have one for my X220 and it works perfectly as a stand+dock
dxhdr 4y ago
Look at the Thinkpad T14 / T14s Gen 3. Doesn't have a high-res display though...
- bodge5000 4y ago
  I worry that 14" would be a bit small for me, this would (probably) be for a desktop replacement so screen real estate really matters (right now I'm using an x220 with a tiny 12.5" screen and its the main reason Im looking to change).
- pedrocr 4y ago
  The T14s has a 2880x1800, OLED, 500nit, wide color gamut, 90hz, screen option. It's probably the best screen you can get on a laptop right now: https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T14s_Gen_3_AMD/ThinkPad_T14s_Gen_3_AMD_Spec.PDF https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T... The T14 has a 4K IPS option: https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T14_Gen_3_AMD/ThinkPad_T14_Gen_3_AMD_Spec.PDF https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T... With that and USB4 the AMD Lenovos seem to be finally uncorked. At this point the Intel-only X1 is suffering as a supposedly top of the line laptop. The chassis is slightly better and that's about its only advantage.
  - seiferteric 4y ago
    Where did you even get those links? When I go to lenovos's website I and filter byt processor I cannot actually find any laptops with these specs to order... So maybe these are only available for businesses to order? Or they are not available yet???
    - pedrocr 4y ago
      The Lenovo websites are really hard to navigate and I think they also use them to steer people into specific configurations they've probably batch produced. I just spec based on the PDFs and then ask a distributor for a quote. It sucks as a buying experience. To find the PDFs you can navigate psref.lenovo.com. Pick the model and go to the specifications tab. You can just see the content there or click the PDF link to get to the file. And even that website is not always fully updated. Sometimes the distributor can already configure something they haven't published the specs for. Yet another thing they could make 10x better and end up selling more because of it.
lhl 4y ago
I prefer iGPU solutions as well (primarily for better battery life, less potential driver issues, and hopefully weight savings) but one thing you tend to lose is cooling headroom. Most of the iGPU only designs end up with single-fan single-heatpipe cooling for U chips designed for 25-35W of heat dissipation. As a point of comparison, the Asus G14, which has a 6800H allows you to get up to 75-80W sustained CPU on its Turbo setting! https://www.ultrabookreview.com/53935-asus-zephyrus-g14-ga402-review/ https://www.ultrabookreview.com/53935-asus-zephyrus-g14-ga40... The G14 is 1.65kg, which isn't the lightest, but is actually the exact same weight as Asus's upcoming iGPU-only 6800H/6900HX Vivobook S 14X: https://www.asus.com/Laptops/For-Home/Vivobook/Vivobook-S-14X-OLED-M5402-AMD-Ryzen-6000-Series/ https://www.asus.com/Laptops/For-Home/Vivobook/Vivobook-S-14...

neogodless 4y ago

Not to say they are common, but they are out there. https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/For-Home/Zenbook/Zenbook-S-13-OLED-UM5302-AMD-Ryzen-6000-series/ https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/For-Home/Zenbook/Zenbook-S-1... https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/thinkpad-p16s-(16-inch-amd)/len101t0038 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/th...

seiferteric 4y ago
And yet there is no "buy now" button and when I go to find the laptop I click on laptops -> for work -> all series -> filter processors -> "more" -> ryzen 7 ... not a single ryzen 6xxx shows up... Seems they are not acutually for sale yet. Same story for lenovo, the laptops with 5xxx cpu's can ship tomorrow, but the 6xxx cpus ship in "3+ months"... so ya, they are not actually available yet.
bodge5000 4y ago
P16s looks perfect. I didn't want to say in my original post as it was a bit me-specific, but I'm also looking only for 16"+ laptops, and want to avoid the gamer aesthetic a lot of them seem to have, so the P16s looks perfect. Port selection and positioning is a bit odd, but hopefully ultradocks still exist for these newer thinkpads. I have one for my X220 and it works perfectly as a stand+dock

dxhdr 4y ago

Look at the Thinkpad T14 / T14s Gen 3. Doesn't have a high-res display though...

bodge5000 4y ago
I worry that 14" would be a bit small for me, this would (probably) be for a desktop replacement so screen real estate really matters (right now I'm using an x220 with a tiny 12.5" screen and its the main reason Im looking to change).
pedrocr 4y ago
The T14s has a 2880x1800, OLED, 500nit, wide color gamut, 90hz, screen option. It's probably the best screen you can get on a laptop right now: https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T14s_Gen_3_AMD/ThinkPad_T14s_Gen_3_AMD_Spec.PDF https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T... The T14 has a 4K IPS option: https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T14_Gen_3_AMD/ThinkPad_T14_Gen_3_AMD_Spec.PDF https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T... With that and USB4 the AMD Lenovos seem to be finally uncorked. At this point the Intel-only X1 is suffering as a supposedly top of the line laptop. The chassis is slightly better and that's about its only advantage.
- seiferteric 4y ago
  Where did you even get those links? When I go to lenovos's website I and filter byt processor I cannot actually find any laptops with these specs to order... So maybe these are only available for businesses to order? Or they are not available yet???
  - pedrocr 4y ago
    The Lenovo websites are really hard to navigate and I think they also use them to steer people into specific configurations they've probably batch produced. I just spec based on the PDFs and then ask a distributor for a quote. It sucks as a buying experience. To find the PDFs you can navigate psref.lenovo.com. Pick the model and go to the specifications tab. You can just see the content there or click the PDF link to get to the file. And even that website is not always fully updated. Sometimes the distributor can already configure something they haven't published the specs for. Yet another thing they could make 10x better and end up selling more because of it.

lhl 4y ago

I prefer iGPU solutions as well (primarily for better battery life, less potential driver issues, and hopefully weight savings) but one thing you tend to lose is cooling headroom. Most of the iGPU only designs end up with single-fan single-heatpipe cooling for U chips designed for 25-35W of heat dissipation. As a point of comparison, the Asus G14, which has a 6800H allows you to get up to 75-80W sustained CPU on its Turbo setting! https://www.ultrabookreview.com/53935-asus-zephyrus-g14-ga402-review/ https://www.ultrabookreview.com/53935-asus-zephyrus-g14-ga40... The G14 is 1.65kg, which isn't the lightest, but is actually the exact same weight as Asus's upcoming iGPU-only 6800H/6900HX Vivobook S 14X: https://www.asus.com/Laptops/For-Home/Vivobook/Vivobook-S-14X-OLED-M5402-AMD-Ryzen-6000-Series/ https://www.asus.com/Laptops/For-Home/Vivobook/Vivobook-S-14...