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This laptop is a refresh based on the Tong Fang PF5NU1G chassis. Tuxedo just announced their version, the Pulse 15 Gen2 that has a WQHD 2560x1440 165Hz 350 nit

by lhl 4y ago

This laptop is a refresh based on the Tong Fang PF5NU1G chassis. Tuxedo just announced their version, the Pulse 15 Gen2 that has a WQHD 2560x1440 165Hz 350 nit display: https://www.reddit.com/r/tuxedocomputers/comments/vrb1me/tuxedo_pulse_15_gen2_successor_with_wqhd_display/ https://www.reddit.com/r/tuxedocomputers/comments/vrb1me/tux... There's no limitation for Ryzen itself, it's largely up to the ODM/OEM to decide. For example, Lenovo and Asus have multiple QHD/4K options for Ryzen 5000 and 6000 series (iGPU-only) laptops (just do a search for Yogas, Thinkpads, Zenbook, Vivobook, etc). Note, certain designs might have display limitations. A couple years ago, for the 1st gen PF5NU1G, Schenker tried to get a 4K OLED panel to run, but failed due to PCON compatibility and then sourcing/logistics issues: https://www.reddit.com/r/XMG_gg/comments/izg598/no_4koled_panel_on_schenker_via_15_pro_sorry/ https://www.reddit.com/r/XMG_gg/comments/izg598/no_4koled_pa...

gigatexal 4y ago
How's the keyboard on the Pulse 2 from someone who might be very partial to loud, clickety, far travel, mechanical keyboards? How does Linux do with the high refresh rate display? Does it destroy battery life like I imagine?
- gpm 4y ago
  I don't know how high refresh rate displays affect battery life, but in the worst case I imagine you could turn down the refresh rate when you aren't interested in using it (certainly refresh rate is tunable in X11).
- lhl 4y ago
  If you want a mechanical keyboard, you should probably carry your own, as even the "mechanical" keyboards on laptops like the Eluktronics Mech 15 are IMO pretty lackluster. The NuPhy Air 75 fits exactly over the keyboard deck, btw, so that'd be my recommendation (replaced an Anne Pro I was using, which felt better, but was much bulkier. A Keychron low-profile might work as well, but I can't confirm whether it'll sit on the deck properly or not w/o having to disable the built-in keyboard. In terms of the built-in keyboard feel, it's adequate. I would say that it reminds me of the keyboards on early-2000s Apple TiBooks. For the previous gen (and in my copy as well) there were reports of slight unevenness of the keyboard deck, although it was more of a curiousity than an actual issue in day-to-day use.
minimaul 4y ago
I've scanned through the Lenovo site as an example and I can't find anything AMD with a display larger than 1920x1080 (at least on the UK site)...
- wongarsu 4y ago
  In Germany Lenovo sells a Legion S7 15 with a 4k display and Ryzen 7 5800H (article number 82K800GUGE). There are also variants of the Yoga Slim 7 Pro 16, the IdeaPad 5 and the ThinkBook 16p G2, each with a 2560x1600 display and a Ryzen CPU.
  - saghm 4y ago
    A bit OT, but I've always found that beyond 2560x1440, I can't really tell the difference on a laptop-size screen. If anything, the only 4K laptop I've owned was a bit more troublesome than the 1440p ones because so many applications had scaling issues that I had to deal with.
    - teleforce 4y ago
      Fully agreed and on the other hand once you get used to 2560x1440 (QHD), lower resolution laptop is a real bummer regardless of the screen size. This also applies to desktop monitor and as you grow older the phone screen as well. Strangely, the entry level Samsung Galaxy S20 phone screen is regressing from QHD+ to 1080p in the S22 after two years, and the recently released flagship ROG 6 pro phone from Asus also stucked at 1080p.
      - saghm 4y ago
        > Fully agreed and on the other hand once you get used to 2560x1440 (QHD), lower resolution laptop is a real bummer regardless of the screen size Yep! 1080p is unfortunately now unbearable to me for monitors and laptops, although thankfully I have not reached the point yet where I'm this picky about phone screens
- neogodless 4y ago
bodge5000 4y ago
I've actually found it quite hard to find Ryzen 6000 laptops with just an iGPU. RDNA2 would be perfect for me, you lose the weight and cooling issues that come with a dGPU but still have enough graphical performance to play some games.
- neogodless 4y ago
  Not to say they are common, but they are out there. https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/For-Home/Zenbook/Zenbook-S-13-OLED-UM5302-AMD-Ryzen-6000-series/ https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/For-Home/Zenbook/Zenbook-S-1... https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/thinkpad-p16s-(16-inch-amd)/len101t0038 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/th...
  - seiferteric 4y ago
    And yet there is no "buy now" button and when I go to find the laptop I click on laptops -> for work -> all series -> filter processors -> "more" -> ryzen 7 ... not a single ryzen 6xxx shows up... Seems they are not acutually for sale yet. Same story for lenovo, the laptops with 5xxx cpu's can ship tomorrow, but the 6xxx cpus ship in "3+ months"... so ya, they are not actually available yet.
  - bodge5000 4y ago
    P16s looks perfect. I didn't want to say in my original post as it was a bit me-specific, but I'm also looking only for 16"+ laptops, and want to avoid the gamer aesthetic a lot of them seem to have, so the P16s looks perfect. Port selection and positioning is a bit odd, but hopefully ultradocks still exist for these newer thinkpads. I have one for my X220 and it works perfectly as a stand+dock
- dxhdr 4y ago
  Look at the Thinkpad T14 / T14s Gen 3. Doesn't have a high-res display though...
  - bodge5000 4y ago

by lhl 4y ago

gigatexal 4y ago

How's the keyboard on the Pulse 2 from someone who might be very partial to loud, clickety, far travel, mechanical keyboards? How does Linux do with the high refresh rate display? Does it destroy battery life like I imagine?

gpm 4y ago
I don't know how high refresh rate displays affect battery life, but in the worst case I imagine you could turn down the refresh rate when you aren't interested in using it (certainly refresh rate is tunable in X11).
lhl 4y ago
If you want a mechanical keyboard, you should probably carry your own, as even the "mechanical" keyboards on laptops like the Eluktronics Mech 15 are IMO pretty lackluster. The NuPhy Air 75 fits exactly over the keyboard deck, btw, so that'd be my recommendation (replaced an Anne Pro I was using, which felt better, but was much bulkier. A Keychron low-profile might work as well, but I can't confirm whether it'll sit on the deck properly or not w/o having to disable the built-in keyboard. In terms of the built-in keyboard feel, it's adequate. I would say that it reminds me of the keyboards on early-2000s Apple TiBooks. For the previous gen (and in my copy as well) there were reports of slight unevenness of the keyboard deck, although it was more of a curiousity than an actual issue in day-to-day use.

minimaul 4y ago

I've scanned through the Lenovo site as an example and I can't find anything AMD with a display larger than 1920x1080 (at least on the UK site)...

wongarsu 4y ago
In Germany Lenovo sells a Legion S7 15 with a 4k display and Ryzen 7 5800H (article number 82K800GUGE). There are also variants of the Yoga Slim 7 Pro 16, the IdeaPad 5 and the ThinkBook 16p G2, each with a 2560x1600 display and a Ryzen CPU.
- saghm 4y ago
  A bit OT, but I've always found that beyond 2560x1440, I can't really tell the difference on a laptop-size screen. If anything, the only 4K laptop I've owned was a bit more troublesome than the 1440p ones because so many applications had scaling issues that I had to deal with.
  - teleforce 4y ago
    Fully agreed and on the other hand once you get used to 2560x1440 (QHD), lower resolution laptop is a real bummer regardless of the screen size. This also applies to desktop monitor and as you grow older the phone screen as well. Strangely, the entry level Samsung Galaxy S20 phone screen is regressing from QHD+ to 1080p in the S22 after two years, and the recently released flagship ROG 6 pro phone from Asus also stucked at 1080p.
    - saghm 4y ago
      > Fully agreed and on the other hand once you get used to 2560x1440 (QHD), lower resolution laptop is a real bummer regardless of the screen size Yep! 1080p is unfortunately now unbearable to me for monitors and laptops, although thankfully I have not reached the point yet where I'm this picky about phone screens
neogodless 4y ago

bodge5000 4y ago

I've actually found it quite hard to find Ryzen 6000 laptops with just an iGPU. RDNA2 would be perfect for me, you lose the weight and cooling issues that come with a dGPU but still have enough graphical performance to play some games.

neogodless 4y ago
Not to say they are common, but they are out there. https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/For-Home/Zenbook/Zenbook-S-13-OLED-UM5302-AMD-Ryzen-6000-series/ https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/For-Home/Zenbook/Zenbook-S-1... https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/thinkpad-p16s-(16-inch-amd)/len101t0038 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/th...
- seiferteric 4y ago
  And yet there is no "buy now" button and when I go to find the laptop I click on laptops -> for work -> all series -> filter processors -> "more" -> ryzen 7 ... not a single ryzen 6xxx shows up... Seems they are not acutually for sale yet. Same story for lenovo, the laptops with 5xxx cpu's can ship tomorrow, but the 6xxx cpus ship in "3+ months"... so ya, they are not actually available yet.
- bodge5000 4y ago
  P16s looks perfect. I didn't want to say in my original post as it was a bit me-specific, but I'm also looking only for 16"+ laptops, and want to avoid the gamer aesthetic a lot of them seem to have, so the P16s looks perfect. Port selection and positioning is a bit odd, but hopefully ultradocks still exist for these newer thinkpads. I have one for my X220 and it works perfectly as a stand+dock
dxhdr 4y ago
Look at the Thinkpad T14 / T14s Gen 3. Doesn't have a high-res display though...
- bodge5000 4y ago