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Not in France, at least not immediately. The antipiracy authority first sends you an email (1st warning), then an IRL letter (2nd warning). When you receive the

by nicoco 4y ago

Not in France, at least not immediately. The antipiracy authority first sends you an email (1st warning), then an IRL letter (2nd warning). When you receive the IRL letter, THEN you should VPN (or SOCKS or whatever) for one year, then you can go turn it off until you receive your 2nd warning again, if that happens. I received my fair share of 1st warnings during the past ~15 years. I only received my first 2nd warning this year. I configured a systemd service `ssh -D myvps` and configured deluged to use this SOCKS5 proxy. Waiting for next April to turn it off...

hypeatei 4y ago
I don't get it, why would you want to put yourself on their radar at all? Why not just use a VPN from the start?
- robgibbons 4y ago
  You should completely ignore the parent's advice.
  - nicoco 4y ago
    Care to elaborate why?
- nicoco 4y ago
  Because I don't care? What worse can happen to me? I firmly believe that sharing "cultural products" (sic) between individuals not seeking profit should not be illegal, and that any attempt to restrict this is vain at best, and most likely counter-productive for society as a whole.
kergonath 4y ago
> I received my fair share of 1st warnings during the past ~15 years. Out of curiosity, how has this changed over years? Are they getting worse or better? My feeling is that they are completely ineffective. Anecdotically, none of my friends living in France mentioned getting emails, and some of them do torrent with abandon.
- ldng 4y ago
  They are now pennyless and can't even send a letter if their lives depended on it. It's a complete failure.
- nicoco 4y ago
  Well I was surprised to receive the "lettre avec accusé de réception" recently. So HADOPI's not dead yet, unfortunately... Ineffective to prevent torrenting, they definitely are. But I think they are winning on the ideas front unfortunately. The idea that 'pirating' is immoral has made its way to the general public. I wonder if I'll see the time where everyone is convinced that you're stealing something when you lend a book to a friend, or when you play music in your house and some people that aren't spotify subscribers can hear it.

by nicoco 4y ago

hypeatei 4y ago

I don't get it, why would you want to put yourself on their radar at all? Why not just use a VPN from the start?

robgibbons 4y ago
You should completely ignore the parent's advice.
- nicoco 4y ago
  Care to elaborate why?
nicoco 4y ago
Because I don't care? What worse can happen to me? I firmly believe that sharing "cultural products" (sic) between individuals not seeking profit should not be illegal, and that any attempt to restrict this is vain at best, and most likely counter-productive for society as a whole.

kergonath 4y ago

> I received my fair share of 1st warnings during the past ~15 years. Out of curiosity, how has this changed over years? Are they getting worse or better? My feeling is that they are completely ineffective. Anecdotically, none of my friends living in France mentioned getting emails, and some of them do torrent with abandon.

ldng 4y ago
They are now pennyless and can't even send a letter if their lives depended on it. It's a complete failure.
nicoco 4y ago
Well I was surprised to receive the "lettre avec accusé de réception" recently. So HADOPI's not dead yet, unfortunately... Ineffective to prevent torrenting, they definitely are. But I think they are winning on the ideas front unfortunately. The idea that 'pirating' is immoral has made its way to the general public. I wonder if I'll see the time where everyone is convinced that you're stealing something when you lend a book to a friend, or when you play music in your house and some people that aren't spotify subscribers can hear it.