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> The only real fully existential physical threats to the US will come not from sea, air, or land, cyber, or biology where it is already well defended, but from

> The only real fully existential physical threats to the US will come not from sea, air, or land, cyber, or biology where it is already well defended, but from space. This is such an absurd statement. US is literally collapsing before your very eyes and going to turn into an extremely dangerous unstable rogue nation with a lot of nuclear weapons. US has been totally subverted and is now falling behind Russia and China in conventional weaponry, and falling way behind Russia in missile defense and offensive hypersonic missiles. There is zero chance USA will be the space faring nation of the future. There's some smart people in USA but the cost of societal, financial, and economic collapse will catch up to the legacy that the USA enjoys due to the hard work of the older dying generations. The real competition for the future of space is between China and Russia. Friends now, but you never know later.

ralusek 4y ago
Even without SpaceX you'd be wrong. However, with SpaceX, you're mega wrong. Falcon 9 had already completely changed the cost function to space. Starship, however, is very set to completely turn the industry upside down.
- nicodjimenez 4y ago
  I love Elon and his antics but competing against the space programs of military super powers China and Russia will not work in the end. State power is ultimately orders of magnitude greater than a single corporation's power.
kbelder 4y ago
>US has been totally subverted and is now falling behind Russia and China in conventional weaponry, and falling way behind Russia in missile defense and offensive hypersonic missiles. It's obvious now, In a conventional war, the US would obliterate Russia in weeks. So could western Europe, even if the US didn't lift a finger to help. Russia has been revealed as a paper tiger. As far as China, they're probably more of an actual competent force than Russia, but what large-scale military actions has China done in the last few decades?
- nicodjimenez 4y ago
  > It's obvious now, In a conventional war, the US would obliterate Russia in weeks. Napoleon and Germany thought the same as you. Unfortunately it did not go well for them. Historically, countries that underestimated Russia's military have faced serious consequences.

ralusek 4y ago

Even without SpaceX you'd be wrong. However, with SpaceX, you're mega wrong. Falcon 9 had already completely changed the cost function to space. Starship, however, is very set to completely turn the industry upside down.

nicodjimenez 4y ago
I love Elon and his antics but competing against the space programs of military super powers China and Russia will not work in the end. State power is ultimately orders of magnitude greater than a single corporation's power.

kbelder 4y ago

>US has been totally subverted and is now falling behind Russia and China in conventional weaponry, and falling way behind Russia in missile defense and offensive hypersonic missiles. It's obvious now, In a conventional war, the US would obliterate Russia in weeks. So could western Europe, even if the US didn't lift a finger to help. Russia has been revealed as a paper tiger. As far as China, they're probably more of an actual competent force than Russia, but what large-scale military actions has China done in the last few decades?

nicodjimenez 4y ago
> It's obvious now, In a conventional war, the US would obliterate Russia in weeks. Napoleon and Germany thought the same as you. Unfortunately it did not go well for them. Historically, countries that underestimated Russia's military have faced serious consequences.