> This is the first time I've heard of this. Doesn't surprise me. You're my new example of folks still unaware. My old one was here (none of the answers this

> This is the first time I've heard of this. Doesn't surprise me. You're my new example of folks still unaware. My old one was here (none of the answers this guy got tell the truth of the situation): https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/q5tlg1/what_info_does_signal_store_about_its_user/ https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/q5tlg1/what_info_do... Here's an early discussion on the user forum: https://community.signalusers.org/t/proper-secure-value-security-pins-are-too-easy-to-brute-force-sgx-is-not-reliable-enough/15096 https://community.signalusers.org/t/proper-secure-value-secu... It was a total mess with tons of posts there and on the subreddit too. Here's an example: https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/htmzrr/psa_disabling_pins_will_now_upload_nothing_to_the/ https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/htmzrr/psa_disablin... Anyone not following all the drama at the time wouldn't have a clue, and a bunch of people who did still came away with incorrect information anyway because Signal didn't make it clear at all what they were doing and they've gone out of their way to avoid answering direct questions in a clear way ever since, instead keeping the myth that they don't collect user data alive. There's no reason they couldn't have provided a simple opt out for the data collection and avoided the issue entirely and the fact that they wouldn't do that was red flag enough, but the mess of confusion their communications caused and their refusal to update their privacy policy should be all the evidence we need that they're not to be trusted. To be fair to the folks at Signal, they may actually be trying to communicate that very message to their users as loudly as they're legally able to. Additional links you might not enjoy: https://community.signalusers.org/t/dont-want-pin-dont-want-anything-stored-in-cloud/14057 https://community.signalusers.org/t/dont-want-pin-dont-want-... https://community.signalusers.org/t/can-signal-please-update-its-privacy-policy/15323 https://community.signalusers.org/t/can-signal-please-update... https://community.signalusers.org/t/wiki-faq-signal-pin-svr-kbs-storage-service-cloud/15690 https://community.signalusers.org/t/wiki-faq-signal-pin-svr-... https://community.signalusers.org/t/sgx-cacheout-sgaxe-attack-signals-cloud-storage-and-contact-discovery-vulnerable/14892 https://community.signalusers.org/t/sgx-cacheout-sgaxe-attac...