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>>The dream I have is someone making a phone that is purpose-built to be secure against state actors I just don't see how anyone could build such a thing. Stat
by gambiting 4y ago
>>The dream I have is someone making a phone that is purpose-built to be secure against state actors
I just don't see how anyone could build such a thing. State level actors have the tools necessary to force you or your company to build in any backdoor they want, and prevent you from ever talking about it to anyone. US certainly does, and could just force apple to add a backdoor to this lockdown mode and apple could never even hint at its existence under legal threat.
- eurasiantiger 4y agoOr they could just add an implant at the factory. Why anyone allows their devices to be manufactured overseas is beyond me.
- qzx_pierri 4y ago>Why anyone allows their devices to be manufactured overseas is beyond me $$$$
- Consultant32452 4y agoWe recently discovered one of our biggest geo-political enemies manufactures all our medicines. So that's crazy.
- robin_reala 4y agoLooking forwards to when Apple manufactures all iPhones in Sweden. Or did you mean the US, which remains stubbornly overseas and scary to the majority of the world’s population?
- eurasiantiger 4y agoI meant ”not abroad”.
- outside1234 4y agoThat's because you are unwilling to buy a $1500 phone when there is the same phone for $800.
- rblatz 4y agoMight want to update those prices. Highest priced iPhone is $1,600.
- corrral 4y agoI don't think the intent was to capture the price of the most-expensive model.
- __d 4y agoCompare the price of the Librem 5 (1299) vs. the Librem 5 USA (1999). The former is assembled in China, the latter in the US.
- stjohnswarts 4y agoI don't recall getting a vote. Do you even know of a single device made in a relatively "benevolent" state actor country? I would love to know. I would love it if there was a provably secure device manufactured in some remote Pacific island that has never projected itself as a malevolent international threat like 100% of the first world countries have.
- stjohnswarts 4y agoNot just the US, so do the EU, any five eyes country, China, Korea, Taiwan. The US doesn't have a hegemony on backdoors so lets always remember that and not exclude others or act like it's an island of corruption in a world of benevolent state actors.
- Miraste 4y agoI don't think Korea or Australia have the power to force Apple to build backdoors into their products. Maybe they'd get to use the US one if they asked nicely.
- buildbot 4y agoUnless it was some kind of false flag to encourage trust, the US government asked less than nicely via the FBI and Apple told them to pound sand.
- __d 4y agoAustralian law requires that Apple enable a "backdoor" when issued a Technical Capability Notice. I don't know one has been issued. But Apple still sells devices in Australia, so I'm assuming it has complied when it was asked. See https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/definition/Australian-Assistance-and-Access-Bill https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/definition/Austral... for an overview.
- Handytinge 4y agoTCNs can only be issued to CSPs, Apple isn't one. There are enough issues with the spying bills introduced in the last few years without creating ones that don't exist.