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>The point of Juul and similar vaping products is they are a way to get people off cigarettes, The point of Juul is to make money, sure you can use it to stop

>The point of Juul and similar vaping products is they are a way to get people off cigarettes, The point of Juul is to make money, sure you can use it to stop smoking cigarettes but there are also people starting vaping without ever having smoked cigarettes.

Clubber 4y ago
>The point of Juul is to make money, sure you can use it to stop smoking cigarettes but there are also people starting vaping without ever having smoked cigarettes. Yes if you only look at it from the company's earnings perspective, but the benefit to the market/society is undoubtedly to get people off cigarettes, and it has worked better as a substitute than anything before it. This is undeniable regardless of how demonized vaping has become in the US. It's a very simple equation: allow Juul and get more people off cigarettes. Ban Juul and increase smoking rates. It's amazing how obtuse people (and the government) are on the subject.
- waffleiron 4y ago
  > It's a very simple equation: allow Juul and get more people off cigarettes. Ban Juul and increase smoking rates. It's amazing how obtuse people (and the government) are on the subject. I am actually not so sure about this. Cigarettes smoking rates have been falling consistently for many years, youth smoking rates were up in the 90's but fell before vaping / e-cigarettes hit the market. Smokers also since 1980 have been smoking less cigarettes per day. There is a significant amount of high school students that starts with e-cigarettes, and doesn't use them to quit anything else. Statistics don't seem to indicate that these children would have smoked cigarettes if they wouldn't have access to e-cigarettes. One also could argue that this potentially makes cigarette adoption higher for this population, because they are already used to nicotine and smoking/vaping. All in all, it's not as simple as you make it out to be. https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-tobacco-trends https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco...

Clubber 4y ago

>The point of Juul is to make money, sure you can use it to stop smoking cigarettes but there are also people starting vaping without ever having smoked cigarettes. Yes if you only look at it from the company's earnings perspective, but the benefit to the market/society is undoubtedly to get people off cigarettes, and it has worked better as a substitute than anything before it. This is undeniable regardless of how demonized vaping has become in the US. It's a very simple equation: allow Juul and get more people off cigarettes. Ban Juul and increase smoking rates. It's amazing how obtuse people (and the government) are on the subject.

waffleiron 4y ago
> It's a very simple equation: allow Juul and get more people off cigarettes. Ban Juul and increase smoking rates. It's amazing how obtuse people (and the government) are on the subject. I am actually not so sure about this. Cigarettes smoking rates have been falling consistently for many years, youth smoking rates were up in the 90's but fell before vaping / e-cigarettes hit the market. Smokers also since 1980 have been smoking less cigarettes per day. There is a significant amount of high school students that starts with e-cigarettes, and doesn't use them to quit anything else. Statistics don't seem to indicate that these children would have smoked cigarettes if they wouldn't have access to e-cigarettes. One also could argue that this potentially makes cigarette adoption higher for this population, because they are already used to nicotine and smoking/vaping. All in all, it's not as simple as you make it out to be. https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-tobacco-trends https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco...