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> When I'm told to learn to use it "the Apple way" what I understand is, "shut up and get used to it, you have no saying in how your machine or you should work"
by chrisseaton 4y ago
> When I'm told to learn to use it "the Apple way" what I understand is, "shut up and get used to it, you have no saying in how your machine or you should work".
Well yeah that is kind of the philosophy - a single simple way to do things. Cutting down on customisation makes the system more stable and I think allows them to innovate more quickly. Don't confuse it with lack of power - it's a fully certified UNIX unlike most Linux distributions.
They do have incredible support for accessibility, so they do accommodate people who genuinely need things to work differently, not just a preference.
What they're not keen on is adding knobs and bells and whistles for the sake of it, as it's clutter.
- Darmody 4y ago> Well yeah that is kind of the philosophy - a single simple way to do things. Not being able to do something is very different from what you're saying. Not being able to do something, in fact, makes it more complicated because you need workarounds. > Cutting down on customisation makes the system more stable and I think allows them to innovate more quickly Nobody is talking about customization. Missing features does not equal a simple way to do things. > Cutting down on customisation makes the system more stable and I think allows them to innovate more quickly. How? How does that allow them to innovate more quickly? There has been no innovation in their UI for ages. > Don't confuse it with lack of power - it's a fully certified UNIX unlike most Linux distributions. Don't confuse lacking a POSIX certification with the lack of power. The certification is just a badge you pay money for. Nothing else. It can't even run Docker properly.
- chrisseaton 4y agoI've not really encountered not being able to do something I needed to do with my Mac before that I can recall. You don't give many concrete examples of things you're unable to do, so I can't help you figure them out. The file manager is a joke? Well it lets you manage files not sure what else you need. I'd done my whole career doing PhD-level systems research on my Macs - hasn't held me back from doing anything. > Don't confuse lacking a POSIX certification with the lack of power. Don't confuse POSIX for UNIX! > It can't even run Docker properly. What are you missing with Docker? I use Docker all the time. It's fine what's wrong?
- throwaway675309 4y agoYeah I've literally got Docker desktop running in the background with multiple containers running seamlessly on my M1 max. I think he's just looking for a place to vent.
- Darmody 4y agoYou're saying it like you're the only one running docker. I use it daily too and it sucks. Containers needs rebooting a few times a day or the changes I make in the code won't work. Then there's the massive ram consumption. Emulated crap. Sorry if I hurt you feelings.
- chrisseaton 4y ago> Emulated crap. Docker is virtualisation, not emulation.
- Darmody 4y agoYes, which is worse. Slower and more RAM hungry.
- chrisseaton 4y agoNo you've got it the wrong way around - virtualisation is lightweight - it's got very good hardware support - emulation is CPU and memory hungry - it's done in software.
- howinteresting 4y agoWhat does being a "certified UNIX" have to do with power?
- chrisseaton 4y agoPeople talk about macOS as being a toy and say it's not a real UNIX like Linux - but it's actually one of very few real UNIX implementations, which only includes a couple of Linux distributions.
- howinteresting 4y agoWho says it's not a "real UNIX"? More importantly, who cares about that? Something being a "real UNIX" or not matters very little. I certainly think it is a "real UNIX", but I also think it's very much a toy. It doesn't even have a good tiling wm (yabai is janky af).