I think reasonable people would be willing to talk if it wasn't so abundantly clear that any concession is taken as a permission to move goalposts even further.

I think reasonable people would be willing to talk if it wasn't so abundantly clear that any concession is taken as a permission to move goalposts even further. Once that conclusion is reached, the basic response is to say no. And it goes for both sides. I can't even discuss abortion in a nuanced way, because I am expected to have opinion A and it cannot deviate an inch from its supporter. But I agree with you in principle, everything should be on the table. That is how normal people deal with issues.