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Your premise is false. CAQ is not separatist and bloc has barely any representative. Seperation is at a all time low. The level of transfer payment is closer t

Your premise is false. CAQ is not separatist and bloc has barely any representative. Seperation is at a all time low. The level of transfer payment is closer to 10b than 75b.. What sort of BS do you believe in the ROC??

incomingpain 4y ago
>CAQ is not separatist and bloc has barely any representative. Seperation is at a all time low. I do understand legault has said he's not separatist. Actions > words. Quebec Liberals have been quite vocal that the CAQ are separatists. As an objective ontario person I say the CAQ are separatist. Let's not even bring up Trudeau and western alienation. In terms of Bloc representation. They have what 50% of the seats in Quebec. Sure sounds like representation to me. Though yes I do agree separatism is quite low, but that seems to have far more to do with the reality that Quebec becomes poor. >The level of transfer payment is closer to 10b than 75b.. If you're looking solely at 'equalization payments' it's around $13 billion. That's not the only money going to Quebec. Canada Health Transfer is another $10B to Quebec. Canada social transfer is another $3B to quebec. There's $26 billion in straight up $ transfers. Now you also have to look at other federal expenditures. Quebec pays X$/year in taxes but the fed pays for lots of things within Quebec. CBSA, Military, etc. The lowest it has ever been is about $20billion in net difference. That is to say, Canadians paying Quebec $20 billion on top of that $26 billion. Canadians have been giving Quebec a ton of money for decades and it's also getting worse. Though the table that I use hasn't been updated because of covid. So I don't know what this years' data looks like. Fundamentally Quebec is basically incapable of separating.
- jpambrun 4y ago
  I am not sure we should care how a political party defines another.. CAQ are definitely against pushing sovereignty. Bloc did better than I remembered, good for them. Outside of equalization, that federal money comes from our taxes. Besides, if Quebec is so much poorer that the ROC it is because of inequalities that is the impetus for seperatist to begin with. You sound like the beating husband that rejoice because the beaten wife can't afford to leave.
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incomingpain 4y ago

>CAQ is not separatist and bloc has barely any representative. Seperation is at a all time low. I do understand legault has said he's not separatist. Actions > words. Quebec Liberals have been quite vocal that the CAQ are separatists. As an objective ontario person I say the CAQ are separatist. Let's not even bring up Trudeau and western alienation. In terms of Bloc representation. They have what 50% of the seats in Quebec. Sure sounds like representation to me. Though yes I do agree separatism is quite low, but that seems to have far more to do with the reality that Quebec becomes poor. >The level of transfer payment is closer to 10b than 75b.. If you're looking solely at 'equalization payments' it's around $13 billion. That's not the only money going to Quebec. Canada Health Transfer is another $10B to Quebec. Canada social transfer is another $3B to quebec. There's $26 billion in straight up $ transfers. Now you also have to look at other federal expenditures. Quebec pays X$/year in taxes but the fed pays for lots of things within Quebec. CBSA, Military, etc. The lowest it has ever been is about $20billion in net difference. That is to say, Canadians paying Quebec $20 billion on top of that $26 billion. Canadians have been giving Quebec a ton of money for decades and it's also getting worse. Though the table that I use hasn't been updated because of covid. So I don't know what this years' data looks like. Fundamentally Quebec is basically incapable of separating.

jpambrun 4y ago
I am not sure we should care how a political party defines another.. CAQ are definitely against pushing sovereignty. Bloc did better than I remembered, good for them. Outside of equalization, that federal money comes from our taxes. Besides, if Quebec is so much poorer that the ROC it is because of inequalities that is the impetus for seperatist to begin with. You sound like the beating husband that rejoice because the beaten wife can't afford to leave.
- incomingpain 4y ago
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