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That's a bit of a strange situation. I can't get angry about something like this. On one hand, sure, the customer paid to talk to a specific model, and sure, s
by ratww 4y ago
That's a bit of a strange situation. I can't get angry about something like this.
On one hand, sure, the customer paid to talk to a specific model, and sure, scamming is wrong. On the other hand, those conversations are already so artificial and staged (and customers know it!) that it doesn't matter who has them. A service is definitely being provided, no harm done, just like "sending a post asking for an autograph" as someone below described.
- yifanl 4y ago> On the other hand, those conversations are already so artificial and staged (and customers know it!) that it doesn't matter who has them. Do you know that for a fact? It's hard for me to understand the minds of these subscribers, but surely, if they're so invested in one particular model, of course it would matter to them.
- ratww 4y agoI do know some people working in a similar line of work, Twitch "Just Chatting" streamers, where they basically sell "attention". They're not trained to do this kind of conversation, so there is a mental toll that comes with giving emotional attention to someone that's at best a stranger, unless they learn compartmentalisation. It can be very artificial, since they can be tired and not all that interested in the customers stories. It is also hard for me to understand their mind, but I know several cases of people who claimed to have fallen in love with the streamers. Even on small channels that can be a weekly occurrence. So yeah, it does matter for these types of buyers, and it would crush their world if they knew it was a bot, but the end result is kinda the same, because streamers/models aren't interested in them.
- arolihas 4y agoI don't think you can just say the customers know that everything is artificial and completely staged. Sometimes there are genuine parasocial relationships going on, especially with particularly vulnerable and lonely people who would pay for this. And what they're paying for is an interaction with that particular person, not someone pretending to be that person. Would you assert that the same service is being provided if it was a chatbot?
- ratww 4y agoIn practice, yes. It would be the same end result for both: one person not caring and the other caring too much. But you're right: the parasocial relationship makes it different, and it is indeed fraud. If a friend did that to me I would also get angry too. But on the other hand, I would probably figure out if a friend of mine ever does it.
- Timshel 4y agoIf it doesn't matter why not make it visible ? Instead of : "The only time he ever has to ask the couple for anything is when a subscriber refuses to pay for content without receiving video confirmation that he’s really talking to Dani" ...
- ratww 4y agoIt does matter to the customer of course, like I said, fraud is wrong. But in practice it doesn't matter: even with a real chat, it's still one people getting their hopes up and another not caring and only doing it for the money.
- tsol 4y agoI mean fraud is fraud even if there's "no harm done". I don't particularly care for this industry but if it exists it should be run legally
- ratww 4y agoWell, that's why I said "scamming is wrong". Maybe I should revert the order of phrases, because people seem to forget I said the first sentence.