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> free and fair elections, are being turned down this year What changed this year? The most commone argument for the election not being free and fair here is "

> free and fair elections, are being turned down this year What changed this year? The most commone argument for the election not being free and fair here is "electoral college vs popular vote". Some have even backed up the very point by showing that this situation has been persistent for the last 20 years, so ... what changed this year? Did they add electoral college votes to red states or something? Free and fair elections - personally I think of elections not being free and fair someone standing next to you as you vote saying vote for vlad or we will kill your whole familiy or votes being thrown in the bin. As far as I am aware none of that is happening. Its pretty bad faith to say Republicans claiming electoral fraud is the Big Lie but when Dems say its Not a Free and Fair Election that it is an irrefutable evidence and vice versa. Simultaneously holding the belief that the elctions are Not Free and Fair while claiming that they are indeed Free and Fair depending upon which party is claiming it is rank hypocracy at best.

skinnymuch 4y ago
Why does it matter if something changed? If they weren’t free and fair in previous years, that can still make them not free and fair this year. > …not being free and fair…vote for vlad…or we will kill your whole familiy or votes being thrown in the bin… You gave an extremely specific coercive tactic and basic corruption. How does it follow if neither happening, then, what, things are fine? This is reminiscent of the neoliberal moderate to conservative status-quo-seeking intellectual and incredibly lazy common talking point. A point echoed by Bill Maher to Jordan Peterson to Bill Gates. “Things aren’t so bad. So be okay with that.” The classic Stephen Pinker elitist “optimism”. So a point made since forever. > Its pretty bad faith…when Dems say its Not a Free and Fair Election that it is an irrefutable evidence… If Dems say they are ‘Free and Fair’ with anything, they are liars, as usual. I am going much farther than you in my denigration of the Dems. What’s the point of this paragraph being written to me?

skinnymuch 4y ago

Why does it matter if something changed? If they weren’t free and fair in previous years, that can still make them not free and fair this year. > …not being free and fair…vote for vlad…or we will kill your whole familiy or votes being thrown in the bin… You gave an extremely specific coercive tactic and basic corruption. How does it follow if neither happening, then, what, things are fine? This is reminiscent of the neoliberal moderate to conservative status-quo-seeking intellectual and incredibly lazy common talking point. A point echoed by Bill Maher to Jordan Peterson to Bill Gates. “Things aren’t so bad. So be okay with that.” The classic Stephen Pinker elitist “optimism”. So a point made since forever. > Its pretty bad faith…when Dems say its Not a Free and Fair Election that it is an irrefutable evidence… If Dems say they are ‘Free and Fair’ with anything, they are liars, as usual. I am going much farther than you in my denigration of the Dems. What’s the point of this paragraph being written to me?