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How does this even make sense though? In what world does it ever make sense to have an AI flag random videos as “for kids”? It should never happen in that direc

How does this even make sense though? In what world does it ever make sense to have an AI flag random videos as “for kids”? It should never happen in that direction, only the other. This is a basic conditional statement.

Akronymus 4y ago
Reminds me of an incident where a video was both marked as for kids and for mature audiences. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28CKVT8TIU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28CKVT8TIU
- aspyct 4y ago
  Lol, the original video has been removed for violating the terms of YouTube. Too bad, wanted to see it now.
  - Akronymus 4y ago
    It has? That makes it even funnier to me now.
  - Akronymus 4y ago
    I seem to have found a reup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wez-5H8wcC0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wez-5H8wcC0
addicted 4y ago
It doesn’t. Kids are the ones to whom videos need to be restricted. Adults should be able to watch both kids and non kids videos. So the only thing needed is for creators to mark a video as “for kids” and the algorithm to confirm that it actually is for kids. Nothing else should even be available for kids. If they want, they can have an additional option for creators which is “definitely not for kids”, much like you’d have an “explicit” option for music. These wouldn’t require an algorithmic check and simply not be available to those under 18.
wodenokoto 4y ago
It’s obviously not the design spec to have to hand out tags randomly. People monetize children's videos by saying they are not for children. Google have been in hot water for serving ads to children and the way around it is to remove ads (or classes of ads) from childrens videos. Creators wants that extra money so they try to post children videos and calls them “for adult”.
- workingon 4y ago
  This still doesn’t follow. If it’s marked for adults and the kids watch it then it isn’t googles fault.
  - wodenokoto 4y ago
    Yes, it is their fault. But it is not like they decided “let us push adult content to children”. Nor is it “let’s randomly decide between adult and childrens content as that might be a great idea” Obviously a mistake was made. But let’s be real: it was made in an attempt to right wrongs, not in an attempt to wrong rights.
HWR_14 4y ago
Google got in trouble for doing tracking of kids for ad purposes on YouTube. Not tracking kids views is important to their regulatory compliance. Once of the easiest ways to do that is to have "kids" videos where the viewers are presumed to be children. These videos will make less money (at least, I've been repeated told less tracking is less ad money), so Google has to worry about people mislabeling their content to get better ROI.

Akronymus 4y ago

Reminds me of an incident where a video was both marked as for kids and for mature audiences. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28CKVT8TIU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28CKVT8TIU

aspyct 4y ago
Lol, the original video has been removed for violating the terms of YouTube. Too bad, wanted to see it now.
- Akronymus 4y ago
  It has? That makes it even funnier to me now.
- Akronymus 4y ago
  I seem to have found a reup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wez-5H8wcC0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wez-5H8wcC0

addicted 4y ago

It doesn’t. Kids are the ones to whom videos need to be restricted. Adults should be able to watch both kids and non kids videos. So the only thing needed is for creators to mark a video as “for kids” and the algorithm to confirm that it actually is for kids. Nothing else should even be available for kids. If they want, they can have an additional option for creators which is “definitely not for kids”, much like you’d have an “explicit” option for music. These wouldn’t require an algorithmic check and simply not be available to those under 18.

wodenokoto 4y ago

It’s obviously not the design spec to have to hand out tags randomly. People monetize children's videos by saying they are not for children. Google have been in hot water for serving ads to children and the way around it is to remove ads (or classes of ads) from childrens videos. Creators wants that extra money so they try to post children videos and calls them “for adult”.

workingon 4y ago
This still doesn’t follow. If it’s marked for adults and the kids watch it then it isn’t googles fault.
- wodenokoto 4y ago
  Yes, it is their fault. But it is not like they decided “let us push adult content to children”. Nor is it “let’s randomly decide between adult and childrens content as that might be a great idea” Obviously a mistake was made. But let’s be real: it was made in an attempt to right wrongs, not in an attempt to wrong rights.

HWR_14 4y ago

Google got in trouble for doing tracking of kids for ad purposes on YouTube. Not tracking kids views is important to their regulatory compliance. Once of the easiest ways to do that is to have "kids" videos where the viewers are presumed to be children. These videos will make less money (at least, I've been repeated told less tracking is less ad money), so Google has to worry about people mislabeling their content to get better ROI.