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My logic on that particular question was that someone would probably get a new trolley to replace it (trolleys are insured, right?), no matter what I thought, s
by ISL 4y ago
My logic on that particular question was that someone would probably get a new trolley to replace it (trolleys are insured, right?), no matter what I thought, so I let the trolley go.
- mrcartmeneses 4y agoI also reasoned that the trolly would be replaced. But with a newer, less polluting model. However I did not take into account the CO2 emissions and possible industrial accidents at the trolly factory or trolly materials mines.
- thriftwy 4y agoAlmost universally, the most eco friendly trolley (clothes, home) is the one you already have.
- cookieswumchorr 4y agowith a home, thats not universally true, if its pooorly insulated for example. trolleys, sure, they are all electric, so you can go down to zero emissions if you use green energy sources. Producing them though, metal production still runs with coal today just like in the 19th century
- akvadrako 4y agoEven if your home is poorly insulated it would take a long time to recoup the (direct and indirect resource) costs of a new home with better insulation. Taking into account future discounting, it's probably almost never a good idea.
- red369 4y agoI agree, but interestingly, perhaps not for cars: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/aug/17/car-scrap-energy-efficiency https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/aug/17/car-scra...
- m0llusk 4y agoBut not your pool pump. If you have an old pool pump then you should definitely consider replacing it with a modern one as they function better, more reliably, and use far less energy.
- mensetmanusman 4y agoI took into account the cash for clunkers program which was a huge disaster.
- addandsubtract 4y ago> However I did not take into account the CO2 emissions and possible industrial accidents at the trolly factory or trolly materials mines. I would argue that it shouldn't factor into the equation. The polluting trolley will be replaced sooner or later, anyway. You're just moving the date forward. The catch is that the argument could be made every year, with a new, more efficient trolley replacing the previous. In which case the construction costs obviously need to be considered, and it wouldn't be worth to spend 100 CO2 to save 10.
- NavinF 4y agoThat has the same impact as an uninsured trolley. Also see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window
- darkerside 4y agoMine was also, what right do I have to destroy someone else's property? I'm surprised people seemed not to consider that or care.