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IP can't be geolocated to a street address. Translating your IP to your street address would require some larger network compromise (probably at the ISP level)

by smt88 4y ago

IP can't be geolocated to a street address. Translating your IP to your street address would require some larger network compromise (probably at the ISP level) or actually getting PII from your ISP.

walterbell 4y ago
There are multiple public databases available via web search, which can map residential, relatively static, IP addresses within a few city blocks, at least in large urban areas. That's usually enough to cross-reference with other sources and obtain an exact street address. There's also geolocation data compiled by browsers, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Location_Service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Location_Service
- smt88 4y ago
  You still haven't provided evidence that IP address alone can be translated to a street address. You can't because it doesn't. IP addresses were never intended to be confined to that small of a geographic area. > There are multiple public databases available via web search, which can map residential, relatively static, IP addresses within a few city blocks, at least in large urban areas. I have never seen anything like this. Can you link to one? IP addresses just don't resolve to that level of detail, even in large urban areas. My own IP address (in a large urban area) resolves to a city ~25 miles away from me. > There's also geolocation data compiled by browsers, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Location_Service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Location_Service This doesn't use IP. It uses local network IDs.
  - walterbell 4y ago
    > IP addresses were never intended to be confined to that small of a geographic area. Design intentions are different from what exists today, where an ISP can assign a residential home IP that remains the same until their CPE is rebooted, which can often be several months. > IP addresses just don't resolve to that level of detail. That depends on what the geolocation service provider is willing to publish, keeping in mind their ability to cross-reference with multiple signal sources. e.g. if someone enters their home address into a site for shipping/delivery, what are the chances that at least one ad-tech data broker on that page is linking their IP to the user-entered street address? There are many other potential signal sources. > It uses local network IDs. Which have often been precisely geolocated by cellphones (with GPS) or StreetView mapping vehicles. The browser also has access to IP address that is "near" those SSIDs..

by smt88 4y ago

IP can't be geolocated to a street address. Translating your IP to your street address would require some larger network compromise (probably at the ISP level) or actually getting PII from your ISP.

walterbell 4y ago

There are multiple public databases available via web search, which can map residential, relatively static, IP addresses within a few city blocks, at least in large urban areas. That's usually enough to cross-reference with other sources and obtain an exact street address. There's also geolocation data compiled by browsers, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Location_Service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Location_Service

smt88 4y ago
You still haven't provided evidence that IP address alone can be translated to a street address. You can't because it doesn't. IP addresses were never intended to be confined to that small of a geographic area. > There are multiple public databases available via web search, which can map residential, relatively static, IP addresses within a few city blocks, at least in large urban areas. I have never seen anything like this. Can you link to one? IP addresses just don't resolve to that level of detail, even in large urban areas. My own IP address (in a large urban area) resolves to a city ~25 miles away from me. > There's also geolocation data compiled by browsers, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Location_Service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Location_Service This doesn't use IP. It uses local network IDs.
- walterbell 4y ago
  > IP addresses were never intended to be confined to that small of a geographic area. Design intentions are different from what exists today, where an ISP can assign a residential home IP that remains the same until their CPE is rebooted, which can often be several months. > IP addresses just don't resolve to that level of detail. That depends on what the geolocation service provider is willing to publish, keeping in mind their ability to cross-reference with multiple signal sources. e.g. if someone enters their home address into a site for shipping/delivery, what are the chances that at least one ad-tech data broker on that page is linking their IP to the user-entered street address? There are many other potential signal sources. > It uses local network IDs. Which have often been precisely geolocated by cellphones (with GPS) or StreetView mapping vehicles. The browser also has access to IP address that is "near" those SSIDs..