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I don’t believe in free will,(although we have a sense of free will) so I think we are a DFA. But we clearly have consciousness, if you don’t believe me try po

I don’t believe in free will,(although we have a sense of free will) so I think we are a DFA. But we clearly have consciousness, if you don’t believe me try poking a needle in your arm. But you can have a DFA that is non-conscious right ? At what point does a DFA become conscious ? Does that have to do with largeness or “intelligence”? I don’t think it necessarily does. Certainly there is no real causal mechanism. So the claim I am making is an AI can be intelligent but non-conscious.

nh23423fefe 4y ago
Largeness isn't sufficient, but it is certainly necessary. By largeness I mostly mean a state space which is effectively inexhaustable. Humans are finite, but human state has ever recurred. I don't think the sticks and stone argument works. It sounds like you are saying something like "well we can imagine in principle performing a computation just like brains do with sticks and stones but you dont think the sticks and stones are conscious do you?" But yes of course it would have to be conscious, that's what equivalent means. Otherwise you are saying you left something out, or that brains are special computers.