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Are you saying that old people who have difficulty figuring a phone will suddenly become a techie that can find an obscure setting? Complete FUD. Stop fearmong

Are you saying that old people who have difficulty figuring a phone will suddenly become a techie that can find an obscure setting? Complete FUD. Stop fearmongering.

FredPret 4y ago
Read again and reinterpret. Old people will get sent a link to the “new official tax app” and be screwed six ways to Sunday.
- kaba0 4y ago
  And it can happen today as well via a website. That’s why some countries mandate two-factor authentication for example, which is a proper solution, not this “let’s sell overpriced tamagotchis” security theater.
sircastor 4y ago
No, they don't just "Find an obscure setting". A website tells them exactly where to look, exactly what to do, and they have motive to do it because they want whatever this app is promising. These kinds of scams are all over the place. Open up your browser's developer console while on Facebook and you'll see FB's desperate attempt to get you to not start typing in commands. When Epic got up in arms about Google's fees, they published a sideload-able version of FortNite, and some users ended up installing a fake virus-laden version (https://www.theguardian.com/games/2018/aug/10/fortnite-on-android-phones-risk-malware-infections https://www.theguardian.com/games/2018/aug/10/fortnite-on-an...). How many Linux users run arbitrary shell commands they find online while trying to fix or install something? What about some curl command somewhere that downloads and executes whole scripts? And Linux users tend to be very technically oriented. This is not FUD. We're there. This is happening today.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  That's why it's FUD. It's happening today. There will never be a perfect circumstance where a determined enough attacker cannot get a determined enough sucker to give them their savings.
  - TheGeminon 4y ago
    “This is FUD because it’s already happening and there is nothing you can do about it” is a weird take. Just because something is possible doesn’t mean that making it harder isn’t worthwhile. Perfect is the enemy of good, after all.
    - Apocryphon 4y ago
      Where is the guarantee that the current situation is better, in terms of actively preventing that situation?
- kaba0 4y ago
  They can’t even follow how to call me up through facebook, do you honestly believe they will accidentally turn on the equivalent of Android dev mode? If Apple want to make it hard to access, they can.

Are you saying that old people who have difficulty figuring a phone will suddenly become a techie that can find an obscure setting? Complete FUD. Stop fearmongering.

FredPret 4y ago

Read again and reinterpret. Old people will get sent a link to the “new official tax app” and be screwed six ways to Sunday.

kaba0 4y ago
And it can happen today as well via a website. That’s why some countries mandate two-factor authentication for example, which is a proper solution, not this “let’s sell overpriced tamagotchis” security theater.

sircastor 4y ago

No, they don't just "Find an obscure setting". A website tells them exactly where to look, exactly what to do, and they have motive to do it because they want whatever this app is promising. These kinds of scams are all over the place. Open up your browser's developer console while on Facebook and you'll see FB's desperate attempt to get you to not start typing in commands. When Epic got up in arms about Google's fees, they published a sideload-able version of FortNite, and some users ended up installing a fake virus-laden version (https://www.theguardian.com/games/2018/aug/10/fortnite-on-android-phones-risk-malware-infections https://www.theguardian.com/games/2018/aug/10/fortnite-on-an...). How many Linux users run arbitrary shell commands they find online while trying to fix or install something? What about some curl command somewhere that downloads and executes whole scripts? And Linux users tend to be very technically oriented. This is not FUD. We're there. This is happening today.

pessimizer 4y ago
That's why it's FUD. It's happening today. There will never be a perfect circumstance where a determined enough attacker cannot get a determined enough sucker to give them their savings.
- TheGeminon 4y ago
  “This is FUD because it’s already happening and there is nothing you can do about it” is a weird take. Just because something is possible doesn’t mean that making it harder isn’t worthwhile. Perfect is the enemy of good, after all.
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    Where is the guarantee that the current situation is better, in terms of actively preventing that situation?
kaba0 4y ago
They can’t even follow how to call me up through facebook, do you honestly believe they will accidentally turn on the equivalent of Android dev mode? If Apple want to make it hard to access, they can.