Ugh, this thread! For years I pleaded with people to understand that there was value to being able to start up in a deterministic manner, but some shell script

Ugh, this thread! For years I pleaded with people to understand that there was value to being able to start up in a deterministic manner, but some shell scripts that don't actually work are supposed to be enough? Then someone finally solves the problem and it is written off as some kind of weird corporate control move. And people could still come up with some kind of alternative, but the open source movement that solved problems for people has been replaced by a hostile cargo cult. At least I get to use systemd not just for reliable start up but also controlling the services that so many applications are made of nowadays. But it feels like some terrible Balkan conflict that just won't simmer down.