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Unlike the seatbelt chime which is easy to address, speeding beeps would be maddening. Everybody speeds at some point while driving somewhere. Not all speeding

Unlike the seatbelt chime which is easy to address, speeding beeps would be maddening. Everybody speeds at some point while driving somewhere. Not all speeding is reckless. As far as making someone get a special track license, that just seems like overkill.

yadaeno 4y ago
"Speeding was a factor in 29% of all traffic fatalities in 2020, killing 11,258, or an average of over 30 people per day." Im not saying beeping will stop all of this but I think its a large low hanging fruit in terms of road safety. You will strongly disagree with this but mandatory breathalyzers are another. I would love if these rules were not necessary but drivers (in the US at least) have proven that they are not responsible in aggregate. I dont think anyone disagrees with speed limits, I dont understand the moral panic that comes from taking it a step further and building it into the car. Youre right about needing to speed sometimes though, maybe they need to add a 15% buffer or some kind of "10/10 data points in the last 5 mins required" condition. https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/motor-vehicle-safety-issues/speeding/ https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/motor-vehicle-safe...
- johnisgood 4y ago
  He just told you though. Speeding happens, and there are many scenarios in which it is OK. Hearing the beeping might actually induce road rage... or not... I wonder though.
- vasco 4y ago
  > I dont think anyone disagrees with speed limits Hello there, I disagree with speed limits on any highway, as well as most well built roads that don't have pedestrians adjacent. I'm not a civil engineer or traffic researcher, but I do disagree with them. Having ridden on the autobahn I also didn't feel less safe there.
  - ultrarunner 4y ago
    I also disagree with many (and most freeway) speed limits, but I also disagree with car-centric urban design and the zoning that makes it the least-bad option. Pedestrians (read: people, including those under 16 and over driving age) shouldn't be forced to deal with adjacent traffic just to go about their daily lives. I mention this because I suspect the person-traffic interface is a major justification for speed limits in the first place.

yadaeno 4y ago

"Speeding was a factor in 29% of all traffic fatalities in 2020, killing 11,258, or an average of over 30 people per day." Im not saying beeping will stop all of this but I think its a large low hanging fruit in terms of road safety. You will strongly disagree with this but mandatory breathalyzers are another. I would love if these rules were not necessary but drivers (in the US at least) have proven that they are not responsible in aggregate. I dont think anyone disagrees with speed limits, I dont understand the moral panic that comes from taking it a step further and building it into the car. Youre right about needing to speed sometimes though, maybe they need to add a 15% buffer or some kind of "10/10 data points in the last 5 mins required" condition. https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/motor-vehicle-safety-issues/speeding/ https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/motor-vehicle-safe...

johnisgood 4y ago
He just told you though. Speeding happens, and there are many scenarios in which it is OK. Hearing the beeping might actually induce road rage... or not... I wonder though.
vasco 4y ago
> I dont think anyone disagrees with speed limits Hello there, I disagree with speed limits on any highway, as well as most well built roads that don't have pedestrians adjacent. I'm not a civil engineer or traffic researcher, but I do disagree with them. Having ridden on the autobahn I also didn't feel less safe there.
- ultrarunner 4y ago
  I also disagree with many (and most freeway) speed limits, but I also disagree with car-centric urban design and the zoning that makes it the least-bad option. Pedestrians (read: people, including those under 16 and over driving age) shouldn't be forced to deal with adjacent traffic just to go about their daily lives. I mention this because I suspect the person-traffic interface is a major justification for speed limits in the first place.