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Yeah, the "mobile-first" movement didn't happen overnight—and ironically, because of Steve's influence, it took the longest for people who latched on to the eth

Yeah, the "mobile-first" movement didn't happen overnight—and ironically, because of Steve's influence, it took the longest for people who latched on to the ethos behind the original iPhone Safari. Just look at Gruber—Daring Fireball still isn't mobile-optimized.

tambourine_man 4y ago
4 years is not overnight. And Gruber's CSS has more to do with his obsessive to a paralyzing degree nature, than to sticking to whatever was said in a keynote 15 years ago. Besides, double tapping a paragraph zooms into what becomes a good reading experience on mobile. It’s that dangerous “good enough”. He obviously should update his site and ditch Verdana, we have better fonts and screens this days. But, if anything, it’s a testament of how good the original design was that it stood the test of time and what was designed for IE5/6 on 800x600px screen is still good on an iPhone 12.
- tambourine_man 4y ago
  And we’re all using this orange website that was definitively not conceived as mobile first. More like mobile barely.
- turnsout 4y ago
  Eh, it took the mobile web until at least 2014 to get some momentum. As someone who was designing websites in this era, 2011/2012 was still the early days. "Smartphones" were still trickling out to the general population. A mobile-friendly site was considered a "nice-to-have." The screens were so much smaller back then—it was reasonable to assume people would jump to a laptop/desktop to read a longer article like this. I don't know what's going on with Gruber—at this point it feels like he's made an almost religious choice to never add another line of CSS. LOL
  - tambourine_man 4y ago
    I was there too, I’ve been designing for the web since 1998. I was very much selling mobile websites in 2011. Probably delivering special purpose CSS through user agent inspection, but still.

tambourine_man 4y ago

4 years is not overnight. And Gruber's CSS has more to do with his obsessive to a paralyzing degree nature, than to sticking to whatever was said in a keynote 15 years ago. Besides, double tapping a paragraph zooms into what becomes a good reading experience on mobile. It’s that dangerous “good enough”. He obviously should update his site and ditch Verdana, we have better fonts and screens this days. But, if anything, it’s a testament of how good the original design was that it stood the test of time and what was designed for IE5/6 on 800x600px screen is still good on an iPhone 12.

tambourine_man 4y ago
And we’re all using this orange website that was definitively not conceived as mobile first. More like mobile barely.
turnsout 4y ago
Eh, it took the mobile web until at least 2014 to get some momentum. As someone who was designing websites in this era, 2011/2012 was still the early days. "Smartphones" were still trickling out to the general population. A mobile-friendly site was considered a "nice-to-have." The screens were so much smaller back then—it was reasonable to assume people would jump to a laptop/desktop to read a longer article like this. I don't know what's going on with Gruber—at this point it feels like he's made an almost religious choice to never add another line of CSS. LOL
- tambourine_man 4y ago
  I was there too, I’ve been designing for the web since 1998. I was very much selling mobile websites in 2011. Probably delivering special purpose CSS through user agent inspection, but still.