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You've managed to completely miss the point: the issue is not whether someone knows about it. The issue is that it is your personal private business - the gover

by XorNot 4y ago

You've managed to completely miss the point: the issue is not whether someone knows about it. The issue is that it is your personal private business - the government can be aware of it all it wants, but the "right to privacy" is the right not to be interfered with. This would include surveillance, but also includes legislation and prosecution on matters which do not involve anyone but the parties they pertain too. "parallel construction" has no bearing here, because again, this is not about whether what you're doing can be known or even is known (this is also not at all how it works, but its beside the point so I'm not going further into it).

adolph 4y ago
> your personal private business - the government can be aware of it all it wants, but > the "right to privacy" is the right not to be interfered with Ok, yes, I'm confused. In what way are the above two statements not completely opposite world-states? Is "information collection" (by government or others) not antithetical to the "right to privacy?" Again I will refer to 'I've Got Nothing to Hide' and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy [0]: The first general category is information collection, which involves the ways that data is gathered about people. The subcategories, surveillance and interrogation, represent the two primary problematic ways of gathering information. A privacy problem occurs when an activity by a person, business, or government entity creates harm by disrupting valuable activities of others. These harms need not be physical or emotional; they can occur by chilling socially beneficial behavior (for example, free speech and association) or by leading to power imbalances that adversely affect social structure (for example, excessive executive power). 0. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565

by XorNot 4y ago

adolph 4y ago

> your personal private business - the government can be aware of it all it wants, but > the "right to privacy" is the right not to be interfered with Ok, yes, I'm confused. In what way are the above two statements not completely opposite world-states? Is "information collection" (by government or others) not antithetical to the "right to privacy?" Again I will refer to 'I've Got Nothing to Hide' and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy [0]: The first general category is information collection, which involves the ways that data is gathered about people. The subcategories, surveillance and interrogation, represent the two primary problematic ways of gathering information. A privacy problem occurs when an activity by a person, business, or government entity creates harm by disrupting valuable activities of others. These harms need not be physical or emotional; they can occur by chilling socially beneficial behavior (for example, free speech and association) or by leading to power imbalances that adversely affect social structure (for example, excessive executive power). 0. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565