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Eh, it's the same logic when people move to coastal areas that will be impacted by sea level rise. No one can imagine they'll be the ones who get screwed over,

Eh, it's the same logic when people move to coastal areas that will be impacted by sea level rise. No one can imagine they'll be the ones who get screwed over, and certainly not if they're wealthy. As such, I'm not sure I would call it chilling so much as entirely predictable. The real failure is in the states and municipalities that are approving the building in the first place.

Pet_Ant 4y ago
> The real failure is in the states and municipalities that are approving the building in the first place. They are solving today’s problems. The fact that our lifestyles are not even sustainable even ignoring global warming, but just from an infrastructure perspective is never addressed.
almost_usual 4y ago
NOAA has a sea level rise viewer. https://coast.noaa.gov/slr https://coast.noaa.gov/slr In the Bay Area the ocean coast communities aren’t very impacted. The Bay coast is significantly impacted, Foster City is already building a levee. https://fostercitylevee.org/ https://fostercitylevee.org/
- Kon-Peki 4y ago
  Building a levee now is a smart move. They don't make the water disappear, they make the water go somewhere else. Somewhere that doesn't have such a high levee, for example. In 10-15 years, the lawsuits surrounding construction of a new levee will make them take forever and cost a fortune.
mywittyname 4y ago
> and certainly not if they're wealthy. Because they know that politicians will step in and have the government pay their bill. Too rich to fail.
phpisthebest 4y ago
Well in their defense the government has a long history of bailing out politically connected people before they have to pay for their poor choices
- BaseballPhysics 4y ago
  Privatize gains, socialize losses!
- azinman2 4y ago
  You’re failing to integrate in that humans are very flexible, nothing is static, and technology often allows us to address problems as they come. Levees are a great example of that. There are very few, if any, places on earth that don’t come with risks from nature.
everybodyknows 4y ago
The way it works, or doesn't work, here in California is a combination of endless litigation against the Coastal Commission: https://www.delmartimes.net/news/story/2021-06-11/seawall-approved-for-solana-beach-gap https://www.delmartimes.net/news/story/2021-06-11/seawall-ap... Or outright defiance, apparently based on contempt for the CC's ability to enforce the law: https://sandiego.surfrider.org/jack-the-riprapper-followup/ https://sandiego.surfrider.org/jack-the-riprapper-followup/

Pet_Ant 4y ago

> The real failure is in the states and municipalities that are approving the building in the first place. They are solving today’s problems. The fact that our lifestyles are not even sustainable even ignoring global warming, but just from an infrastructure perspective is never addressed.

almost_usual 4y ago

NOAA has a sea level rise viewer. https://coast.noaa.gov/slr https://coast.noaa.gov/slr In the Bay Area the ocean coast communities aren’t very impacted. The Bay coast is significantly impacted, Foster City is already building a levee. https://fostercitylevee.org/ https://fostercitylevee.org/

Kon-Peki 4y ago
Building a levee now is a smart move. They don't make the water disappear, they make the water go somewhere else. Somewhere that doesn't have such a high levee, for example. In 10-15 years, the lawsuits surrounding construction of a new levee will make them take forever and cost a fortune.

mywittyname 4y ago

> and certainly not if they're wealthy. Because they know that politicians will step in and have the government pay their bill. Too rich to fail.

phpisthebest 4y ago

Well in their defense the government has a long history of bailing out politically connected people before they have to pay for their poor choices

BaseballPhysics 4y ago
Privatize gains, socialize losses!
azinman2 4y ago
You’re failing to integrate in that humans are very flexible, nothing is static, and technology often allows us to address problems as they come. Levees are a great example of that. There are very few, if any, places on earth that don’t come with risks from nature.

everybodyknows 4y ago

The way it works, or doesn't work, here in California is a combination of endless litigation against the Coastal Commission: https://www.delmartimes.net/news/story/2021-06-11/seawall-approved-for-solana-beach-gap https://www.delmartimes.net/news/story/2021-06-11/seawall-ap... Or outright defiance, apparently based on contempt for the CC's ability to enforce the law: https://sandiego.surfrider.org/jack-the-riprapper-followup/ https://sandiego.surfrider.org/jack-the-riprapper-followup/