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Women have been prosecuted for miscarriages before, it's not baseless. https://www.npr.org/2022/07/03/1109015302/abortion-prosecuting-pregnancy-loss https://ww

Women have been prosecuted for miscarriages before, it's not baseless. https://www.npr.org/2022/07/03/1109015302/abortion-prosecuting-pregnancy-loss https://www.npr.org/2022/07/03/1109015302/abortion-prosecuti...

vorpalhex 4y ago
> One of California's senior legal officials has shown his support for a young mother charged with murder after her stillborn baby boy was found to have toxic levels of meth in his system, reports Daily Mail. https://meaww.com/who-is-chelsea-becker-jailed-for-killing-unborn-child-smoking-meth-days-before-delivery-splits-state https://meaww.com/who-is-chelsea-becker-jailed-for-killing-u...
- arolihas 4y ago
  Yeah, this is one of the examples of the mother being prosecuted mentioned in the article, thanks for emphasizing my point!
  - origin_path 4y ago
  - ars 4y ago
    That did not emphasize your point. It refuted it. Or do you believe that pregnant women should be allowed to take any toxic substance they want regardless of the harm to their child? I've met some people who believe that, but it's very much a minority view, Even among pro-choice supporters.
    - arolihas 4y ago
      The original comment said that prosecuting a mother for the death of a fetus was not a thing. I shared an article with multiple examples of that showing he was misinformed. That was my whole point. I don’t know what point you think I was making that was refuted, and I really don’t want to derail the conversation and get into the weeds of whether this particular case of stillbirth was a miscarriage or an abortion or manslaughter or murder. Have a nice day.
      - hahaitsfunny 4y ago
        Yeah well, I believe the OP's comment was typed in reference to abortion, not mothers taking illicit substances and their pregnancies not being viable because of that.
      - vorpalhex 4y ago
        If you are going to pick example cases to prove your argument, I would not pick a case where a meth addict murdered her child.
        arolihas 4y ago
        What is my argument again?
hahaitsfunny 4y ago
NPR is funded by the federal government. They rely on the same fact checking services (the IFCC, PolitiFact / Poynter) that are funded by Soros, the Gates, the Clintons, the Koch foundation, etc... They're probably the most anti-American media outlet in existence and I wouldn't trust the words they print further than I can ball them up and throw them.
- zaccusl 4y ago
  What are some examples of them being anti-American or passing misinformation?
  - hahaitsfunny 4y ago
    They're constantly promoting the topics of critical race theory and BLM which one can easily lump in with other Marxist mass movements. Whatever the Biden administration feels is important tends to be what they cover - so right now it's all about race, how shitty America is, gun violence, LGBTQ+, etc... They never talk bad about the federal government, and they only give one side in any debate a platform - those who agree with their sentiments. No one else gets airtime. I guess if you believe everything the federal government tells you, and you believe the federal government is a benign hegemon, then you'd have a tough time classifying NPR's content as misinformation / un-American. I don't fall into that camp so many of NPR's claims are debatable and the fact that the only give one side a voice and push for a neoliberal agenda, makes them anti-American in my humble opinion.
- arolihas 4y ago
  What news sources do you trust?

vorpalhex 4y ago

> One of California's senior legal officials has shown his support for a young mother charged with murder after her stillborn baby boy was found to have toxic levels of meth in his system, reports Daily Mail. https://meaww.com/who-is-chelsea-becker-jailed-for-killing-unborn-child-smoking-meth-days-before-delivery-splits-state https://meaww.com/who-is-chelsea-becker-jailed-for-killing-u...

arolihas 4y ago
Yeah, this is one of the examples of the mother being prosecuted mentioned in the article, thanks for emphasizing my point!
- origin_path 4y ago
- ars 4y ago
  That did not emphasize your point. It refuted it. Or do you believe that pregnant women should be allowed to take any toxic substance they want regardless of the harm to their child? I've met some people who believe that, but it's very much a minority view, Even among pro-choice supporters.
  - arolihas 4y ago
    The original comment said that prosecuting a mother for the death of a fetus was not a thing. I shared an article with multiple examples of that showing he was misinformed. That was my whole point. I don’t know what point you think I was making that was refuted, and I really don’t want to derail the conversation and get into the weeds of whether this particular case of stillbirth was a miscarriage or an abortion or manslaughter or murder. Have a nice day.
    - hahaitsfunny 4y ago
      Yeah well, I believe the OP's comment was typed in reference to abortion, not mothers taking illicit substances and their pregnancies not being viable because of that.
    - vorpalhex 4y ago
      If you are going to pick example cases to prove your argument, I would not pick a case where a meth addict murdered her child.
      - arolihas 4y ago
        What is my argument again?

hahaitsfunny 4y ago

NPR is funded by the federal government. They rely on the same fact checking services (the IFCC, PolitiFact / Poynter) that are funded by Soros, the Gates, the Clintons, the Koch foundation, etc... They're probably the most anti-American media outlet in existence and I wouldn't trust the words they print further than I can ball them up and throw them.

zaccusl 4y ago
What are some examples of them being anti-American or passing misinformation?
- hahaitsfunny 4y ago
  They're constantly promoting the topics of critical race theory and BLM which one can easily lump in with other Marxist mass movements. Whatever the Biden administration feels is important tends to be what they cover - so right now it's all about race, how shitty America is, gun violence, LGBTQ+, etc... They never talk bad about the federal government, and they only give one side in any debate a platform - those who agree with their sentiments. No one else gets airtime. I guess if you believe everything the federal government tells you, and you believe the federal government is a benign hegemon, then you'd have a tough time classifying NPR's content as misinformation / un-American. I don't fall into that camp so many of NPR's claims are debatable and the fact that the only give one side a voice and push for a neoliberal agenda, makes them anti-American in my humble opinion.
arolihas 4y ago
What news sources do you trust?