> If you need a service to manage K8s for you, then that's a red flag already It's really not, k8s does a ton for you, trying to do the same with VMs would be

> If you need a service to manage K8s for you, then that's a red flag already It's really not, k8s does a ton for you, trying to do the same with VMs would be unbelievably complex > that should probably be avoided with IaaS or PaaS. PaaS is great till it isn't, seen plenty of companies hit the edges of PaaS and then need to move to k8s > infrastructure when it's based on straight IaaS/SaasS/PaaS Again this is great till it isn't (see heroku) and then people move to k8s. Having control and understanding of the underlying infrastructure is important unless your just running some basic web app