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Plausible deniability. They will simply cover up their shady practices by saying "it was for codec checking" whereas they are also crippling the experience for

Plausible deniability. They will simply cover up their shady practices by saying "it was for codec checking" whereas they are also crippling the experience for Linux users. Given that there are some very talented programmers out there who know what they are exactly doing, it's hard to believe that it's incompetence.

moron4hire 4y ago
You basically need to be an expert on media encodings to know how to use the Media Capabilities API. Random Web Front End Developer is not frequently going to be that person. And Person Who Managed All The Media Encodings is probably not likely to be working on the web front end. Most likely scenario is the front end dev will get a chunk of JSON from the media encoding dev describing the media, and then be left to their own devices to figure out how to translate that into something the Media Capabilities API will understand. Consistent results across browsers is also really difficult to achieve. Chrome in particular is super pedantic about the content type field. Firefox sometimes ignores parts of the content type field. It's nuts.
- BeefWellington 4y ago
  Sorry, you're suggesting that Microsoft's cloud gaming division doesn't employ people familiar with media APIs in web browsers? It's an especially awful argument when switching the user-agent makes the problem disappear. "Forgive the multi-billion dollar conglomerate with a vested interest in user capture; they probably just don't employ the proper people" is a very weak argument on something like this.
  - moron4hire 4y ago
    Between how difficult the Media Capabilities API is to use correctly and the fact that no corporation is the superman you seen to be ascribing to Microsoft, yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    > Sorry, you're suggesting that Microsoft's cloud gaming division doesn't employ people familiar with media APIs in web browsers? I mean, Apple makes even more money than MS, and they don't seem to know the first thing about online media codecs and cross-platform API sniffing. So... yes? Even as someone who uses Linux as their daily-driver, there's pretty much no way for me to get mad at Microsoft for what's pretty obviously a mistake (and not even a serious one at that). Microsoft is a hostile company, but that's not a reason to make their molehills into mountains for them. I seriously doubt a any of the outraged commentors on this page are typing their comment from a real Linux box anyways. They're more incensed by the opportunity to hate Microsoft than they are by the actual problem.
bogwog 4y ago
> it's hard to believe that it's incompetence. On the one hand yes, but on the other hand, https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362 https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362

moron4hire 4y ago

You basically need to be an expert on media encodings to know how to use the Media Capabilities API. Random Web Front End Developer is not frequently going to be that person. And Person Who Managed All The Media Encodings is probably not likely to be working on the web front end. Most likely scenario is the front end dev will get a chunk of JSON from the media encoding dev describing the media, and then be left to their own devices to figure out how to translate that into something the Media Capabilities API will understand. Consistent results across browsers is also really difficult to achieve. Chrome in particular is super pedantic about the content type field. Firefox sometimes ignores parts of the content type field. It's nuts.

BeefWellington 4y ago
Sorry, you're suggesting that Microsoft's cloud gaming division doesn't employ people familiar with media APIs in web browsers? It's an especially awful argument when switching the user-agent makes the problem disappear. "Forgive the multi-billion dollar conglomerate with a vested interest in user capture; they probably just don't employ the proper people" is a very weak argument on something like this.
- moron4hire 4y ago
  Between how difficult the Media Capabilities API is to use correctly and the fact that no corporation is the superman you seen to be ascribing to Microsoft, yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  > Sorry, you're suggesting that Microsoft's cloud gaming division doesn't employ people familiar with media APIs in web browsers? I mean, Apple makes even more money than MS, and they don't seem to know the first thing about online media codecs and cross-platform API sniffing. So... yes? Even as someone who uses Linux as their daily-driver, there's pretty much no way for me to get mad at Microsoft for what's pretty obviously a mistake (and not even a serious one at that). Microsoft is a hostile company, but that's not a reason to make their molehills into mountains for them. I seriously doubt a any of the outraged commentors on this page are typing their comment from a real Linux box anyways. They're more incensed by the opportunity to hate Microsoft than they are by the actual problem.

bogwog 4y ago

> it's hard to believe that it's incompetence. On the one hand yes, but on the other hand, https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362 https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362