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The people who think AI is conscious without any definition or measure of consciousness. Conflate consciousness with computation. The only reason we do this is
by dhruval 4y ago
The people who think AI is conscious without any definition or measure of consciousness. Conflate consciousness with computation.
The only reason we do this is because our computation organ seems to also be our consciousness organ.
We don’t understand consciousness well but we do understand computation.
Given infinite time and space all the computation in any AI system can be done manually using sticks and stones. If it likely that system of sticks and stones become conscious?
It is ethically very dangerous to extend the same care to a convincing computation pulls at our evolutionary heartstrings as one would to a sentient creature that is capable of pain and suffering.
- AbrahamParangi 4y agoYou’re yourself just sticks and stones from a certain perspective. Zoom in and slow down and human consciousness doesn’t look so different.
- nh23423fefe 4y agoAgree completely. People seem to imagine they are more than a very large DFA.
- dhruval 4y agoI don’t believe in free will,(although we have a sense of free will) so I think we are a DFA. But we clearly have consciousness, if you don’t believe me try poking a needle in your arm. But you can have a DFA that is non-conscious right ? At what point does a DFA become conscious ? Does that have to do with largeness or “intelligence”? I don’t think it necessarily does. Certainly there is no real causal mechanism. So the claim I am making is an AI can be intelligent but non-conscious.
- nh23423fefe 4y agoLargeness isn't sufficient, but it is certainly necessary. By largeness I mostly mean a state space which is effectively inexhaustable. Humans are finite, but human state has ever recurred. I don't think the sticks and stone argument works. It sounds like you are saying something like "well we can imagine in principle performing a computation just like brains do with sticks and stones but you dont think the sticks and stones are conscious do you?" But yes of course it would have to be conscious, that's what equivalent means. Otherwise you are saying you left something out, or that brains are special computers.
- dhruval 4y agoThere is something it is like to be me. Can a system of sticks and stones capture that ? It is not clear how consciousness emerges from non-consciousness or whether it does at all. The hard problem remains intractable.