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I globally agree, with two nitpicks. Anime from the last twenty years seems less directly influenced by foreign tendencies. Of course, since Japan is impregnat
by idoubtit 4y ago
I globally agree, with two nitpicks.
Anime from the last twenty years seems less directly influenced by foreign tendencies. Of course, since Japan is impregnated of the American culture (including the language), its anime cannot ignore this context. But decades ago, the Japanese pioneers like Tezuka were following the steps of previous pioneers like Disney, but now, the anime has grown enough to claim a relative independence, meaning their internal tendencies are much stronger than foreign influences.
> Miyazaki (who mostly made very Disney-like westernised things
The level of "Disney-like thing" hugely varies across Miyazaki's films. Mononoke is obviously Disney/Hollywod compatible, but Totoro not so much.
Miyazaki and Takahata, who co-founded Ghibli, repeatedly stated that the work that most influenced them was "Le roi et l'oiseau" (Grimault & Prévert, 1953, 1980). This masterpiece is of course a "western thing", but very far from "Disney-like", especially toward the second half of the film. I heard that the Ghibli museum often had screenings of it.
- lmm 4y ago> The level of "Disney-like thing" hugely varies across Miyazaki's films. Mononoke is obviously Disney/Hollywod compatible, but Totoro not so much. I'd say Totoro is still a lot more Disney-like than the average anime (if that's even a meaningful concept).
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- pram 4y agoIt’s a pro watch! There are actually two versions of The King and the Mockingbird. The other release is an “unfinished” copy called Mr. Wonderbird, and they have a lot of differences. I actually prefer it to the “finished” version. It’s more minimalist and weird and somber. The environment of the totalitarian state is contrasted more strongly in Mr. Wonderbird. You have the grandiose and highly modernist towers on the top, a practically deserted and people-free environment. Then you have the bleak cities underneath the surface with lots of quirky peasants. It’s a lot like a cartoon version of Metropolis. The finished version adds a lot more cartoonish and baroque elements to the world and it kind of detracts from the feeling imo. They’re both good though.
- patrec 4y ago> Mononoke is obviously Disney/Hollywod compatible, but Totoro not so much. My preferred example would be Pom Poko and clubbing police officers with hypertrophied testicles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFPaSIy--50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFPaSIy--50
- aschismatic 4y agoI've seen plenty of other Ghibli films and thought I knew what to expect from Pom Poko, but it was quite a surprise experience. Definitely wild. I need to watch it again!