> I don’t have the energy to fight anymore I mean ... good? People shouldn't be fighting for economic products and systems, they should be evaluating them fai

> I don’t have the energy to fight anymore I mean ... good? People shouldn't be fighting for economic products and systems, they should be evaluating them fairly based on present capabilities. As such, even you seem to think we're 5-10 years from delivery on effectiveness (personally I'm on the 'never' side). The current wave of speculation-mania and its associated out-and-out scams needs to come to an end. If there's any real use-case here, it'll emerge quietly and with little fanfare, because it can actually do things better than existing or alternative systems and will take over the market that way. It's not going to emerge from "HODL TO THE MOOOOON". (And it's certainly not seeming to emerge from an incestuous community of 'funds' and 'investments' offering unrealistic returns while all speculating and investing with each other!) (I see you agree that it's good these things get shaken out - great! My hope is they get shaken out so much that the regulators step and in and severely restrict anything marketed to the public, and anything related to PoW. After that, you do you, feel free to chase those unicorns)