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I don't know, seems to be a cultural US thing. I live in the EU and I have a hard time finding anything even resembling anime on the TV and any public media.

by thefz 4y ago

dghf 4y ago
Ulysses 31? The Mysterious Cities of Gold? Dogtanian and the Three Muskehounds? More recently: - Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Chat Noir - Winx Club - LoliRock (All aimed at children, admittedly.)
bowsamic 4y ago
I’ve also noticed declining popularity in Europe, it peaked in the 90s and early 2000s
CoastalCoder 4y ago
At least in the U.S., I get the sense that people increasingly rely on streaming services rather than broadcast/cable TV. So for many of us, what really matters (I think) is that we're able to access Crunchyroll and (for now) Funimation. My point is simply that I suspect fewer and fewer people (at least in the U.S.) are limited by what's available via public broadcast.
- thefz 4y ago
  That is why I specified "any public media". I know maybe 1 or 2 people who once told me they watch anime, and that's it. Never ever hear about it in any conversation.
beebeepka 4y ago
I think you are right but I have observed that many young people are into anime. Our of touch maybe? Just for the record: I've been out of touch for a while
- Ekaros 4y ago
  At least a while back the people in Anime weren't watching it on TV, but pirated shows and currently probably Crunchy Roll. Not that there wasn't some shows shown like Dragonball, but not too many. Not sure what is the current state, I haven't watched TV in years.
Morgawr 4y ago
> I live in the EU and I have a hard time finding anything even resembling anime on the TV and any public media. What does "I live in the EU" mean specifically? I grew up in Italy and I can 100% guarantee you that most Italians (and from what I heard Spaniards and French too) are very familiar with anime. Anime is *huge* in Italy (at least it was 30 years ago). I grew up with Ranma 1/2, Sailor Moon, Dragonball, Evangelion, GTO, and a lot of other older "Italian-ified" anime that I don't even know the proper name of (because they got translated into Italian). Italy is home to the world's second largest anime/comic convention after Comiket (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucca_Comics_%26_Games https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucca_Comics_%26_Games). I live in Japan now, and I don't know what kids these days watch on TV in Italy (if they even watch TV) but every single one of my peers is familiar with anime as a medium and has watched several dozens of series growing up (and some of us still watch them today). All of this from public TV and public media. EDIT: https://www.otaquest.com/anime-in-italy/ https://www.otaquest.com/anime-in-italy/ good article about it actually
- masklinn 4y ago
  > at least it was 30 years ago It was but I’m not sure it still is. I’ve not been following the scene in a very long while, but anecdotally I’ve not heard any of the nieces and nephews mention anything which sounded like anime, it’s all 3D/CGI american animation, with the odd Chinese stuff: paw patrol, blue’s clues, bubble guppies, deer squad, blaze and the monster machines, ...
  - HanaShiratori 4y ago
    My feeling is that anime / manga is more popular than ever. Kids in my 8 yo nieces and 10 yo nephews class are crazy about Pokemon, Naruto (both seem to be still around...), Haikyuu and My Hero Academia. They are even wearing Haikyuu shirts for PE class. They also have all Yotsuba books and loved reading it. (I read the first two books with them together and it indeed is really fun!) It would be interesting to have some data on that, but seeing all this anime content on social media and explosion of anime convetions i'd be surprised if there was no huge rise in popularity for both anime / manga.
  - 4y ago
tinco 4y ago
Where in the EU do you live that you don't get Cartoon Network? Also when I was a kid the most popular cartoon that was not on cartoon network was a locally produced Japanese anime called Alfred Kwak. I imagine kids these days have access to many more anime and anime inspired cartoons.
- oriolid 4y ago
  Finland got Cartoon Network at 2017, and I'm not sure if anyone paid for cable TV at that point. Back in the day there were lots of European-produced shows that had production outsourced to Japan, but the content was still very European. The anime boom really took off here only at 2000s.
arc-in-space 4y ago
Part of the point of the article is that even if you've never seen anime, you've likely seen lots of things directly influenced by it.
Akronymus 4y ago
Austrian, born in 97, here. RTL 2 used to have some anime in the oughts/early tens. But yeah, nowadays, almost nothing on tv. Pretty sure the high amount of people who just pirate it is a factor. I "grew up" on Digimon, One piece, shaman king and the like.
yieldcrv 4y ago
My impression is also very different. Preteens losing their mind over korean bands like BTS and big on japanese anime, due to the internet. The same all over the world. TV? Like Cable TV is your metric? Come on its the wrong century for this. People aren’t going to lead with their counter culture obsession but there are other ways look.
sph 4y ago
Is TV still relevant in 2022 to determine a country's cultural baseline? I don't mean to say television is irrelevant, I'm saying the Internet is these days the biggest contender for people's attention.

I don't know, seems to be a cultural US thing. I live in the EU and I have a hard time finding anything even resembling anime on the TV and any public media.

by thefz 4y ago

I don't know, seems to be a cultural US thing. I live in the EU and I have a hard time finding anything even resembling anime on the TV and any public media.

dghf 4y ago

Ulysses 31? The Mysterious Cities of Gold? Dogtanian and the Three Muskehounds? More recently: - Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Chat Noir - Winx Club - LoliRock (All aimed at children, admittedly.)

bowsamic 4y ago

I’ve also noticed declining popularity in Europe, it peaked in the 90s and early 2000s

CoastalCoder 4y ago

At least in the U.S., I get the sense that people increasingly rely on streaming services rather than broadcast/cable TV. So for many of us, what really matters (I think) is that we're able to access Crunchyroll and (for now) Funimation. My point is simply that I suspect fewer and fewer people (at least in the U.S.) are limited by what's available via public broadcast.

thefz 4y ago
That is why I specified "any public media". I know maybe 1 or 2 people who once told me they watch anime, and that's it. Never ever hear about it in any conversation.

beebeepka 4y ago

I think you are right but I have observed that many young people are into anime. Our of touch maybe? Just for the record: I've been out of touch for a while

Ekaros 4y ago
At least a while back the people in Anime weren't watching it on TV, but pirated shows and currently probably Crunchy Roll. Not that there wasn't some shows shown like Dragonball, but not too many. Not sure what is the current state, I haven't watched TV in years.

Morgawr 4y ago

> I live in the EU and I have a hard time finding anything even resembling anime on the TV and any public media. What does "I live in the EU" mean specifically? I grew up in Italy and I can 100% guarantee you that most Italians (and from what I heard Spaniards and French too) are very familiar with anime. Anime is *huge* in Italy (at least it was 30 years ago). I grew up with Ranma 1/2, Sailor Moon, Dragonball, Evangelion, GTO, and a lot of other older "Italian-ified" anime that I don't even know the proper name of (because they got translated into Italian). Italy is home to the world's second largest anime/comic convention after Comiket (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucca_Comics_%26_Games https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucca_Comics_%26_Games). I live in Japan now, and I don't know what kids these days watch on TV in Italy (if they even watch TV) but every single one of my peers is familiar with anime as a medium and has watched several dozens of series growing up (and some of us still watch them today). All of this from public TV and public media. EDIT: https://www.otaquest.com/anime-in-italy/ https://www.otaquest.com/anime-in-italy/ good article about it actually

masklinn 4y ago
> at least it was 30 years ago It was but I’m not sure it still is. I’ve not been following the scene in a very long while, but anecdotally I’ve not heard any of the nieces and nephews mention anything which sounded like anime, it’s all 3D/CGI american animation, with the odd Chinese stuff: paw patrol, blue’s clues, bubble guppies, deer squad, blaze and the monster machines, ...
- HanaShiratori 4y ago
  My feeling is that anime / manga is more popular than ever. Kids in my 8 yo nieces and 10 yo nephews class are crazy about Pokemon, Naruto (both seem to be still around...), Haikyuu and My Hero Academia. They are even wearing Haikyuu shirts for PE class. They also have all Yotsuba books and loved reading it. (I read the first two books with them together and it indeed is really fun!) It would be interesting to have some data on that, but seeing all this anime content on social media and explosion of anime convetions i'd be surprised if there was no huge rise in popularity for both anime / manga.
- 4y ago

tinco 4y ago

Where in the EU do you live that you don't get Cartoon Network? Also when I was a kid the most popular cartoon that was not on cartoon network was a locally produced Japanese anime called Alfred Kwak. I imagine kids these days have access to many more anime and anime inspired cartoons.

oriolid 4y ago
Finland got Cartoon Network at 2017, and I'm not sure if anyone paid for cable TV at that point. Back in the day there were lots of European-produced shows that had production outsourced to Japan, but the content was still very European. The anime boom really took off here only at 2000s.

arc-in-space 4y ago

Part of the point of the article is that even if you've never seen anime, you've likely seen lots of things directly influenced by it.

Akronymus 4y ago

Austrian, born in 97, here. RTL 2 used to have some anime in the oughts/early tens. But yeah, nowadays, almost nothing on tv. Pretty sure the high amount of people who just pirate it is a factor. I "grew up" on Digimon, One piece, shaman king and the like.

yieldcrv 4y ago

My impression is also very different. Preteens losing their mind over korean bands like BTS and big on japanese anime, due to the internet. The same all over the world. TV? Like Cable TV is your metric? Come on its the wrong century for this. People aren’t going to lead with their counter culture obsession but there are other ways look.

sph 4y ago

Is TV still relevant in 2022 to determine a country's cultural baseline? I don't mean to say television is irrelevant, I'm saying the Internet is these days the biggest contender for people's attention.