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For people who are interested in this stuff, I suggest this comment thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29532704 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2
by kqr 4y ago
For people who are interested in this stuff, I suggest this comment thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29532704 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29532704
The ideas behind Trane don't work for things where we haven't had good pedagogical development -- but they are the state of the art for things where we have!
- trane_project 4y agoThanks. Quite the rabbit hole, but I'll try to read it all this week. And yeah, I started with music because it both has an established pedagogy that is centuries old, and the process consists mostly of repeating the same task until it soaks into your nervous system to the point you can do it without thinking. But I am curious about the actual extent of the skills that would benefit from this. I suspect it's a matter of having experts break up the domain knowledge and the right exercises/tasks. Like, could anyone learn soccer using Trane? Have the tasks being progressively more difficult drills?
- solarmist 4y agoIt’s the matter of having identified repeatable processes that lead to success. In many fields/areas it’s try a bunch of things randomly until you develop the intuition for the skill well enough for one to stick. Language is a great example next to music. Both are as old as humanity, yet we still can’t reliably teach anyone a second language. But it’s obvious that it’s possible because there are people who regularly achieve this.
- solarmist 4y agoYup. Language learning falls in this bucket. We don’t have repeatable processes for making someone fluent in another language. It’s very luck based for the people who succeed which are a very small percent of people who try.