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I publish both Android and iOS apps regularly, this is just Google getting to feature parity with Apple. Apple had data safety, Google now has it. Apple didn'

I publish both Android and iOS apps regularly, this is just Google getting to feature parity with Apple. Apple had data safety, Google now has it. Apple didn't show permissions, now Google also doesn't. Presumably most people don't really care about permissions anymore.

xnx 4y ago
Android still has permissions
- manchmalscott 4y ago
  Not presented in the App Store; both android and iOS still have a permission system, but you need to download the app before you can see what permissions the app has asked for.
  - happyopossum 4y ago
    In iOS you see what permissions are requested when the app needs them and, you know, requests them from you with a dialog. That seems good enough?
    - unlaxedneurotic 4y ago
      It's the same for Android.
    - magnio 4y ago
      Same with Android.
    - LeoNatan25 4y ago
      It’s not. It would save me from so many predatory apps if I knew they’d require contact and calendar access, for example, for a utility app.
    - manchmalscott 4y ago
      The issue at hand is seeing what permissions the app wants before you download it, in the App Store
duskwuff 4y ago
> Apple didn't have permissions Huh? Apple has always had permissions; Apple calls them "entitlements". Some of them are granted on install (like Game Center or Siri intents); some of them also require explicit user permission (like push notifications or contacts access). What Apple doesn't do is list entitlements in the App Store. This is because users don't generally need to be aware of them; entitlements with significant security or privacy implications are always coupled with an explicit permissions prompt, and many entitlements represent internal details of how an app works which users don't need to be aware of. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/bundleresources/entitlements https://developer.apple.com/documentation/bundleresources/en...
- paradite 4y ago
  Yup I meant "Apple didn't show permissions". Edited my comment.
BLKNSLVR 4y ago
People don't whinge about what they don't know, and they won't know what they aren't shown.
EnKopVand 4y ago
I use iOS and I don’t think I’ve ever seen one of those lists in the App Store. I don’t insta a lot of apps, however, so maybe I’m not the typical user, but one thing that Apple has is that the actual permissions are off by default. I had Instagram for a while as an example, because I liked to look at miniature painters, but Instagram never had access to my contacts, images, location data and so on. It would ask for permission of course and I would decline. Does Google do something similar or are permissions on per default? I mean, the info is still a nice feature in the App Store to help people make better choices, but the real protection for people like me is the “This app would like to access your pictures, will you let it?” box that pop ups when you run the app.
hulitu 4y ago
> Apple had data safety, Google now has it. My data and Google's safety. Why does my phone needs access to storage ?

xnx 4y ago

Android still has permissions

manchmalscott 4y ago
Not presented in the App Store; both android and iOS still have a permission system, but you need to download the app before you can see what permissions the app has asked for.
- happyopossum 4y ago
  In iOS you see what permissions are requested when the app needs them and, you know, requests them from you with a dialog. That seems good enough?
  - unlaxedneurotic 4y ago
    It's the same for Android.
  - magnio 4y ago
    Same with Android.
  - LeoNatan25 4y ago
    It’s not. It would save me from so many predatory apps if I knew they’d require contact and calendar access, for example, for a utility app.
  - manchmalscott 4y ago
    The issue at hand is seeing what permissions the app wants before you download it, in the App Store

duskwuff 4y ago

> Apple didn't have permissions Huh? Apple has always had permissions; Apple calls them "entitlements". Some of them are granted on install (like Game Center or Siri intents); some of them also require explicit user permission (like push notifications or contacts access). What Apple doesn't do is list entitlements in the App Store. This is because users don't generally need to be aware of them; entitlements with significant security or privacy implications are always coupled with an explicit permissions prompt, and many entitlements represent internal details of how an app works which users don't need to be aware of. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/bundleresources/entitlements https://developer.apple.com/documentation/bundleresources/en...

paradite 4y ago
Yup I meant "Apple didn't show permissions". Edited my comment.

BLKNSLVR 4y ago

People don't whinge about what they don't know, and they won't know what they aren't shown.

EnKopVand 4y ago

I use iOS and I don’t think I’ve ever seen one of those lists in the App Store. I don’t insta a lot of apps, however, so maybe I’m not the typical user, but one thing that Apple has is that the actual permissions are off by default. I had Instagram for a while as an example, because I liked to look at miniature painters, but Instagram never had access to my contacts, images, location data and so on. It would ask for permission of course and I would decline. Does Google do something similar or are permissions on per default? I mean, the info is still a nice feature in the App Store to help people make better choices, but the real protection for people like me is the “This app would like to access your pictures, will you let it?” box that pop ups when you run the app.

hulitu 4y ago

> Apple had data safety, Google now has it. My data and Google's safety. Why does my phone needs access to storage ?